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The problem is that there are narrative issues no matter which side you pick. It may be that the narrative supports the SSJ2 side a bit more, but it’s still not wholly consistent either way. The art on the other hand is completely unambiguous. I think going with SSJ2 Gohan is a fun thought...

OPfag cope

This is now a thread about peak Naruto Let’s discuss Naruto

Yes, humans have been known to exhibit multiple times their usual strength in life-or-death situations, often injuring their muscles, bones, and/or blood vessels in the process. It's called hysterical strength. Most examples are anecdotal, but there are enough that I believe it to be a real thing.

Well yeah, it's not a rage burst, and yeah, being emotional lets him bring it out. I dunno what you mean by "real" I guess, other than your idea that it's the power that his Oozaru boost is based on. Maybe, maybe not, I dunno.

Gohan's power at this point in the story is extremely volatile and he has basically no control over it whatsoever since he hasn't been trained yet. If 710 is his "real" power, then he'd be walking around at 710 and Goku would know that his toddler is twice as strong as him.

you can nerf it a tiny bit if you want by accounting for Vegeta’s SSJ delusion, I suppose

Yes, (4th > Pic) > (Expected 2nd > Krillin) is reasonable

10-20 works just fine, but you have leeway with the second scenario because the Z team is not as grouped together anymore. Krillin is stuck at the same level he was at versus 1st form Freeza, Gohan is significantly weaker than Piccolo. If Vegeta is 3-3.5x stronger than Piccolo then that’s...

Kril 200k Goh 1m 2F 1.5m Pic 1.6m 3F 2.2m Veg 5m 4F 5.5m good enough, no?

Tenshinhan should've died holding down Cell tbh

It's in the anime. The animation and sound design (especially in Kai) is misleading as to what's happening there, but it's a dodge.

DBZ really was proto-HxH Togashi is a hack

I get that, but I chalk that up to bad writing that we just have to work with. This is why p likes discarding the 2.2x amp these days. I wouldn't say it's nonexistent on Namek btw. It's pretty reasonable that Vegeta's blast against final form Freeza is amped, no? It has to be. Freeza kicks it...

Ki amp has never changed your power level, not in the way you’re describing. It’s only the ki blast itself that reads higher. You’re fundamentally misunderstanding what ki amp is. Raditz: “He…He can raise his battle power by concentrating it into a single point!!!”

You do not need redundant statements when there's already another statement telling you what you need to know.

I find it’s pretty hard for some jokes to translate onto the screen in terms of comedic timing. The “punchiness” of the static visual form is lost.

That scene where the mc laments the fact that he can't shoot a basket anymore and the fmc faints is peak comedy, funniest shit I've ever seen

It almost killed him. Whatever. Nothing says he should've died there (but he really probably should've, even more so when Gohan bashed his head in than when he fell on him). In all seriousness, Vegeta's durability is the same as Burter being faster than Jeice or 17 being quicker than he is...

Krillin vs Vegeta showed that durability correlates with your current power. Stamina loss is a different thing. Cell can beat Goku even with a senzu despite his own stamina loss because he has additional reserves to pull from (though if Cell was mortally wounded and couldn't regenerate like...