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I'm more than open for suggestions what do you think he should be at?

I took care of it

he was suppressed

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he was already weakened

maybe

I don't think they'll ever grow up

I took care of it

vegeta

thank you for not cursing about it

such profanity I'm happy to remove it if some of you don't like it

Oh okay. Maybe

Well did his fight with 4th form frieza say anything he thought he was a super saiyan stronger than frieza when in actuality he was not. would you like me to change it because I could go either way

He was already outclassed, he just doesn't want to admit it and played it cool his arrogance made him think he was stronger. Why??? if trunks and vegeta somewhat struggled against the cell juniors who are weaker than cell himself. ASSJ is the same as the grades meaning USSJ Why???

Different??? Vegeta always thinks he's number 1 except to Goku when he showcased his new ssj power to android 19 and 20 and the rest of the z fighters he was stronger than goku piccolo even lamp shaded him to be and there's the weakness right there he just can't accept that there will always be...

His arrogance remember its another weakeness of his he thought he could beat android 18 with his newfound super saiyan power or destroy cell's perfect form.

you remember vegeta weakness from whis right he walks through life with a chip on his shoulders and nerves too tight that keeps him from reaching his full potential and why he's always second to goku who takes time to relax and rest and always surpasses any limit given to him. Vegeta trained so...

because he somewhat struggled with a cell junior who's weaker than cell, goku, and gohan

Even still I doubt he was stronger than 50% MSSJ