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I'd give it to Garlic Jr.

But you can deflect that argument with the Cell imposition. Don't really think Vegeta was severely suppressed either unless you believe he walked around actively hiding his ki at all times. Going by his attitude and behaviour I would even suggest he was at his regular fighting power even just...

You can't just use plot armour to deflect my point of their increase in strength. Vegeta would have gained a ton given he worked tirelessly over the seven year gap to bridge the difference between he and Gohan and Goku was shooting for the stars then, too. Vegeta had to be ready and capable...

Spopovich easily.

What makes you special enough to annoy and not the next guy?

That's the circular logic of Toriyama at work. There's not much that makes sense in the Dragon Ball world.

I think he was familiar with Frieza not Cold. His father had retired a couple of years beforehand and he was just a toddler training against Saibamen.

SSJ Goku (on Namek) - 150 Frieza (100 percent) - 140 Android 19 - 175 Android 20 - 180 SSJ Goku (Android Arc) - 300 - Sick - 160 SSJ Vegeta - 310

Another interesting topic I thought I'd try debating.

But that was a base Goku after several years of training in the Other World. And as for barely being a rival he easily absorbed the power of MSSJ Goku - in fact he was able to handle everything up until SSJ2. In my opinion, given Yakon is stated as not being a competent fighter, I believe he's...

I know what you're thinking and hear me out. Trunks showed in the late Cell Arc he could push Imperfect Cell away with just his aura in his base form and with seven years of training base Vegeta sits far above him. I'd argue Trunks used his SSJ form as overkill for Imperfect Cell. Pui Pui...

Who else remembers the connundrum relating to false-remembering past posts as being gospel but then return only to realise they aren't so?

I think the movies follow a weird sort of "What If" scenario mirroring Dr Who or Future Trunks... Deceptively interesting.

Would look like Ginyu in Goku's clothes.

I place Hercule higher than you people must.

I think it's reversed lol, I got it wrong. Vegeta was using and abusing Nappa. Nappa was his close friend or at least he thought so. Vegeta saw him as nothing more than a tool to be used and once his usefulness ran out he disposed of him in a cruel inhumane way.

Vegeta was still a villain. He did not care if his son would die and said some vulgar things to Android 18 during their fight showing he perhaps had an intense dislike of women too. Vegeta was a virgin for a very long time. He only had Raditz and Nappa plus Frieza and his soldiers. He didn't...

Hard to say man. I'd say he'd have a 10 percent edge as in the earlier arcs the gaps in power and other attributes were closer than in later arcs. He might have only had a 5-7 percent edge but that's enough to be a lot quicker than someone with the same powerlevel.

Yes, he did. That's why Kami ultimately merged with him. He redeemed himself over time with his selfless acts reflecting he had fixed King Piccolo's evil.

No, because he had a lower power level. It's explicitly stated in the early arcs that power level equates to other attributes. He would be faster than Recoome and Jeice who share the same power level.