1% Champa vs SSJ Goku (S17)

[Southern Gothic]

SSJ Goku from the Super 17 Saga vs Champa 1% power. Who wins?

 

[kriss-]

SSJ Goku from the S17 Arc is stronger then Super Baby Vegeta 2 from the Baby Saga, and likely stronger then SSj2 Vegetto. However, I've got Champa thousands of times stronger then Vegetto.

He stomps.

 

[Six Trails]

I'd be willing to give Goku the win even against 100% Champa.

 

[Southern Gothic]

SSJ Goku from the S17 Arc is stronger then Super Baby Vegeta 2 from the Baby Saga, and likely stronger then SSj2 Vegetto. However, I've got Champa thousands of times stronger then Vegetto.

He stomps.

Mr. t0sh, a sidebar, if you please...

Do you consider there to be a huge difference between BoG movie Beerus and his Super counterpart???

 

[kriss-]

After fighting with Beerus Goku determines that Beerus's expected battle power would surpass a hypothetical Vegetto.

Minute: 20
Context: after Goku regains consciousness following his fight with Beerus
Goku: “This ain’t good. The only way to get stronger would be to merge with Vegeta…and even then, I don’t think I could win.”

Beerus (Expected) > Vegetto Super Saiyan 3

Upon transforming into a Saiyan God, Goku's expectations for the transformation completely blow his mind, but he's unable to land a single attack on Beerus, and can't actually see him move. Further into the episode, he begins to power-up and starts to break into the transformation.

Minute: 22
Context: After Beerus and SSG Goku have fought for most of the episode
Beerus: "It looks like you've mostly gotten used to the power of Super Saiyan God. As a result, I'm starting to enjoy this too."
Significance: In a nutshell, ep.10 is just Goku “breaking in” his SSG form so that he can really use the form to its full capacity. Beerus seems to go along with this, still not fighting Goku seriously and just trying to have an enjoyable fight

Minute: 24
Goku: "I'm still not even close to serious."
Significance: As above, Goku has just spent the episode getting used to his new form and still isn’t giving the fight his all yet.

Goku SSJG > (Powering Up) > Goku SSJG (Initial) > Goku SSJG (Expected) > Beerus (Expected) > Vegetto Super Saiyan 3

Once again for no explained reason, Goku comes back even stronger than before!

Minute: 26
Context: Goku narrates the Next Episode Preview.
Goku: "Hey, what's that technique? Has Beerus-sama been hiding his power again? But I'm a bit different than before too. I ain't gonna lose! Let's keep on fightin'!

Goku SSJG (Powered Up) > Goku SSJG > (Powering Up) > Goku SSJG (Initial) > Goku SSJG (Expected) > Beerus (Expected) > Vegetto Super Saiyan 3

Finally, the two Gods decide to use their full power. Although what Beerus is saying is proven to be a lie, but that doesn't mean what Goku is saying is.

Minute: 16
Context: after the universe once again rather conspicuously fails to end
Beerus: “I nullified all the energy that existed here.”
Goku: “You can…do that?”
Beerus: “Only if I put forth 100% of my power.”
Goku: “100%? Ah! So you still hadn’t gone all-out!? I can’t believe it! You were still hidin’ some power?”
Beerus: “Well, it’d look bad, wouldn’t it? I’m a god. To use my full power against a Saiyan…I’d rather die than make a fool of myself like that…Or so I had thought, anyway. But I don’t want to lose this fight, no matter what! I don’t care how bad or how stupid I look! I’ll beat the tar out of you and prove that I’m overwhelmingly stronger!”

Minute: 18
Context: As Goku and Beerus punch each other a lot
Goku: “Beerus-sama, you really are incredible! The power of your punches is completely different than what it was five minutes ago!
Beerus: “Your power’s risen too, hasn’t it?”
*more fighting*
Beerus: “This is 100%!”
Goku: “I’m at 100% too!”

Goku SSJG (Full Power) > Goku SSJG (Powered Up) > Goku SSJG > (Powering Up) > Goku SSJG (Initial) > Goku SSJG (Expected) > Beerus (Expected) > Vegetto Super Saiyan 3


1rst Form Freeza > Gohan SSj > Ginyu > Ultimate Gohan =/= Tagoma

And since final form Freeza is 225x stronger this his 1rst form, and since Goku's Base form rivals Freeza at that level, then his Super Saiyan transformation would make him 50x stronger! At first I thought that was it and Super Saiyan God Blue only increased Goku's SSj form by like... 10x or something. However, the new information suggests that Goku can still turn Super Saiyan 3 at will, which would make him 400x stronger then he was when he fought against Organic Freeza. This is before we take into account Super Saiyan God or Super Saiyan God Blue, let alone the Kaio-Kenx10.

 

[Southern Gothic]

I like Mike's answer the best.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

@kriss- Would you mind posting the line that says Ginyu > Ultimate Gohan?

On topic, I have a rather unorthodox belief for GT, that Super Baby Vegeta 1 > SSj3 Vegetto. It makes things less cramped, rather than trying to fit all of Goku's forms in between Gohan-Boo and SSj Vegetto. In this case, I'll give Goku the win here.

 

[Future Warrior]

Unfortunately Champa would win this based on the fucked up power scaling of Super. Though, I could try to make it less less cramped like ryan did.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Goku wins no doubt about it.

 

[kriss-]

Goku wins no doubt about it.

ALL of my evidence vs yours?

Sure he does.

:1down

@kriss- Would you mind posting the line that says Ginyu > Ultimate Gohan?

On topic, I have a rather unorthodox belief for GT, that Super Baby Vegeta 1 > SSj3 Vegetto. It makes things less cramped, rather than trying to fit all of Goku's forms in between Gohan-Boo and SSj Vegetto. In this case, I'll give Goku the win here.

Gohan said Tagoma neared him at his best, his Base form was better then Piccolo. Was it not? @Evil_Vegeta