16 and Super 13 gap

[KyuubiAhri]

We know that 16 is stronger,but by how much?

 

[Pyro]

There's a ton of leeway between #17 and #16, so he could fit wherever (no homo). I'd say closer to the former than the latter, but that's just me.

 

[SSJ2]

I'd say closer to the latter considering he tanked the fuck out of Kamiccolo.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

I don't think it's a significant difference.

#13 seems to be above any Super Saiyan, but below Piccolo. I think #13 is around the same level as Gingertown Cell, so the transformation would likely put him closer to #16 than Piccolo and #17. Pretty hard to compare them, imo. Both are comfortably above the Super Saiyans and Piccolo.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I have 16 and Super 13 at the same ballpark.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Enough for #16 to stomp when comparing how Super #13 took Weighted Piccolo's punches to Cell tanking the Gekiretsu Kodan. Nothing too extreme like a 1.5-2x gap, but still one large enough that #13 won't be able to ignore #16's girth when he's inevitably made his bitch.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Enough for #16 to stomp when comparing how Super #13 took Weighted Piccolo's punches to Cell tanking the Gekiretsu Kodan. Nothing too extreme like a 1.5-2x gap, but still one large enough that #13 won't be able to ignore #16's girth when he's inevitably made his bitch.

How did Super 13 take Piccolo's punches? He was unfazed.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Whilst tanking them, he seemed to be slightly pushed back at one point iirc, at least moreso than Cell was against a far stronger attack.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

he was slightly budging from kamiccolos punches.
What do you think about this?
16:250
Super 13:100
weighted kamiccolo:50
unweighted kamiccolo:60

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Probably needs to be larger, considering the Gekiretsu Kodan's amp is implied to be above the Makankosappo's.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

piccolo was very tired from his fight with 17 and suffered even more injury from cell.Maybe if he was at full power the blast would have actually done some damage

 

[Pocket-God]

Looks to me like he's vibrating XD

 

[KyuubiAhri]

yea,now wonder what would have happened if piccolo used Gekiretsu kodan there? 13 would have died

 

[p123]

I think 13 showcases superior strength over Cell vs the same opponent. I think y'all be taking that guidebook statement too far.

13 is pulling off Broly level tanking shit. Cell doesn't need to be more than 1.5x Piccolo to be managing the same. Amplified blast logic is all over the place.

 

[Pyro]

The hell did 13 do that was better than 16?

 

[p123]

He tanked the shit out of Piccolo's punches. You act like it's not even a discussion. Nothing about the fight between Cell vs 17 and Piccolo suggests that 13 is some turd to them. Cell tanking Piccolo's Light Grenade is a different story, amplification can be anything really and Piccolo was already pretty tired.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

Piccolo was still fighting on par with 17 by the time Cell arrived, so I doubt he lost very much power.

 

[Papasmurf]

Exactly. Even FP Piccolo was only slightly ahead of 17 at best.

 

[p123]

Before the Light Grenade I mean. He had taken some damage and was clearly out of breath. Towards the end of the 17 battle, Piccolo was already starting to wear down a bit.

 

[Papasmurf]

I dunno, bleeding out from a missing limb (vs Raditz) seems like greater damage to me.