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Can #18 from the main-timeline take-on both future androids at the same time?
I think she can easily.
I think she can easily.
#18 vs Future Androids
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ye he is abt on-par with the future-androids (mainly future android #18 by implication)
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#18 gets overwhelmed. No way she can take them on her own if she needed help to take on Vegeta along with the other Z-Warriors.
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This also includes Future #17.Pyrus Rex said:
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I have Present Androids 1.5x Future Androids. She wins.
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I have the Android Saga SSJs a good deal beneath the Future Androids. I like to put the Main Timeline Androids 1.25 stronger than their future counterparts which I have still being enough to give her quite some trouble.
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It's hinted by the power gaps within both the movie and the manga that the Android Saga SSj's are close to the Future Androids. And Present Android 18 pretty much smashed SSj Vegeta, so it's likely that Android 18 would defeat Future 17 and Future 18 just as quickly IMO.
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Well if Ssj Trunks was able to fight both the future Androids very well, and 18 beat an even stronger Vegetation, I'd say she can
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The gap between Present 18 and Future 17 is pretty decent, in my opinion. She would win pretty handily. Throwing in Future 18 would make it more difficult, but it's nothing that Present 18 should not be able to handle.
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Basically what Lightsworn said. If Trunks has a chance against either of them individually then Main timeline #18 wrecks her alternate self and brother. However, Trunks did seem amazed that Vegeta could fight evenly with #18, which does shake up the chain somewhat.
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That's would just mean perhaps no one told him Vegeta was powerful enough to stalemate 18.Captain Cadaver said:
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Since 18 could'nt beat Trunks ,Vegeta and Piccolo together, i would put Future Androids winning this fight, but it won't be easy
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Trunks may not have even known that the cyborgs were holding back a lot.Lightsworn said:
Trunks is a bit of an unreliable narrator because of this.
In the manga, it does show a little. Gohan finally thinks he is strong enough to win. Then 17 tells him that before he'd never used even half his power.
Given the small implied gap between present 17 and 18, it could well be inferred that 18 was doing similar.
This is a Gohan who also doubted whether he was stronger than his father. Meaning that at best he might not have been much stronger, if any, than SSj Goku upon returning from space. Even if so, at best he would be comparable to SSj Goku before dieing from the heart virus in the future. Which would still mean at least somewhat weaker than present SSj Goku or SSj Vegeta.
It's implied that Trunks really isn't stronger than Gohan was. So the fact that he is alive hints to the cyborgs holding back greatly against him as well.
Meaning that if the present 18 pretty much went all out, it should come as no surprise that he'd think she was stronger than her future counterpart who only toyed with everyone she fought, likely including Trunks.
Based on all this, I'd conclude that there is either no real difference, or that any advantage present cyborgs have over the future ones would be so small as to be hardly worth noting.
In other words, present 18 is stomped. Even future 17 could be enough to win.
