22nd Steroid Roshi vs Old Daimao (Less than half power)

[Animelover5487]

Assume Roshi has the same usage of the form as he does in Super where he can move and fight in it

 

[Captain Cadaver]

With its usage in Super, even 21st TB Roshi would oneshot considering the Kamehameha that destroyed Mount Frypan was a Small City level attack and this version of Daimao was someone who's attacks a Goku not far stronger than his 22nd TB self could survive.

 

[GSM123]

[mention]Captain Cadaver[/mention] why can’t Goku be above Small City level? Roshi did see himself as powerless against Daimao, after all.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

The Kikoho was noted to be something Goku absolutely couldn't survive by both Ten and Roshi, and the destructive capability it presented was at best Multi-City Block level. Roshi's estimation doesn't directly tie to the Piccolo who beat Goku. It seems unlikely that Roshi could sense Ki at this point and had no movements to go on for Daimao, so he was definitely high-balling his estimations.

In other words:
Less than 50% Daimao = Multi-City Block level, or potentially Town level via-scaling.
100% Old Daimao = Possibly Small City level

 

[Papasmurf]

Roshi stated he could sense Galu's ki after Ten fired off his Kikoho.

 

[GSM123]

The Kikoho was noted to be something Goku absolutely couldn't survive by both Ten and Roshi, and the destructive capability it presented was at best Multi-City Block level. Roshi's estimation doesn't directly tie to the Piccolo who beat Goku. It seems unlikely that Roshi could sense Ki at this point and had no movements to go on for Daimao, so he was definitely high-balling his estimations.

In other words:
Less than 50% Daimao = Multi-City Block level, or potentially Town level via-scaling.
100% Old Daimao = Possibly Small City level

Roshi also said the Kikoho was stronger than the Kamehameha, and Tenshinhan pointed out he was sparing some Ki to maintain flight.

Roshi stated he could sense Galu's ki after Ten fired off his Kikoho.

But can he sense signatures/sizes too? Or just presences?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Roshi also said the Kikoho was stronger than the Kamehameha, and Tenshinhan pointed out he was sparing some Ki to maintain flight.

His statements makes it clear he's referring to the Kikoho's power in terms of an amp rather than comparing it to the strongest Kamehameha seen thus far.

But can he sense signatures/sizes too? Or just presences?

He most likely can't sense the size of someone's Ki, or at least not fully, considering only Galu was able to detect the size of the CHADitz's Ki.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

Tenshinhan is small city level, the Kikoho scales to roshi’s kamehameha

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Tenshinhan is small city level, the Kikoho scales to roshi’s kamehameha

It doesn't. Roshi's statement only suggests he's speaking of the Kikoho's amp in general compared to the Kamehameha, rather than saying the Kikoho's power eclipses that of any Kamehameha conceivably possible.