23rd Budokai vs Raditz Saga Powers

[p123]

How big of a gap is there here in the 5 years? Most downplay this gap unnecessarily imo. But as I read more, it's even bigger than I thought.

Let's see Goku and Piccolo's intentions at the end of their battle.


Piccolo- The Great Demon King shall withdraw...For now...But the day shall come for you to die...And your world to pass into this grasp! Enjoy this life until I return to take it!

Goku- Train hard Piccolo, get as strong as you can. And I'm going to try to pass that strength, by one full level!


Later when taking off the weights vs Raditz Goku comments that Piccolo has been training hard.

There's clearly quite a gap between the powers.


I don't think the humans have surpassed Kami at all, I don't even think Tien has surpassed Popo, but that could be debatable. The gains should be significant, but not extreme.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I give Goku/Piccolo 1.5x gains in my scouters list and 2x gains in my non scouters list.

 

[p123]

I ended up giving everyone around a 2.5x increase. 5 years is a long time and they've been training hard.

 

[SSJ2]

Piccolo- The Great Demon King shall withdraw...For now...But the day shall come for you to die...And your world to pass into this grasp! Enjoy this life until I return to take it!

I wonder about this. Piccolo implies he will come back to take on Goku when he becomes much stronger, yet he didn't seem to bother during the 5 years. This seems odd to me if his gains were dramatic imo.

 

[Kyo]

He was developing the special beam cannon and still had to wait forever to charge it, so that's why

 

[SSJ2]

Oh.

 

[p123]

Here's the actual answer. Goku spared his life, it softened his heart. He was a fundamentally changed being because of it. He puts on a good show, but he's softened big time.