Akira Toriyama

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It's sad to see him become worse and worse. Instead of learning from his mistakes, he repeats
them in an even larger scale. Between Buu Saga and DBS, there was a 20 year long period;
more than enough time for him to know about the fans' comments, to realize the inconsistencies
he had created and correct them. Yet, when he came back with the new material, he just created
an even greater mess and things get even messier with each saga.
 

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I agree.

#StopToriyama2017
 

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He obviously doesn't care about anything but money. Which is why I don't feel guilty that we have all been watching it for free and most of us will never purchase a single dvd or whatever for Super shit.

Toriyama might has well start using Goku and co. to do product placement, Goku can drink some protein powder drink from GNC, and Roshi could drink some popular Japanese beer, Gohan can plug the latest in computer/smart device products, I mean fuck it! Beerus, have a Dr. Pepper, buddy!
 

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Don't go in raw, protection is <3
Wrap it up with a trojan.
 

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Toriyama's already said his involvement beyond the script's premise and some character designs is fairly minimal, stating that he barely has to do any work now, so it's obvious he doesn't care much.

Eh, still a better mangaka than Kubo at least.
 

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This is why Super is inferior to GEET
 

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Fearless Zamasu said:
The manga has been consistent from I've read so far.
Have you gotten up to the Vegeta VS Black fight and the chain of SS2 Vegeta >> SS3 Goku? I mean, there are ways to explain it, but none seem entirely consistent, nor are any delivered in-series.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Fearless Zamasu said:
The manga has been consistent from I've read so far.
Have you gotten up to the Vegeta VS Black fight and the chain of SS2 Vegeta >> SS3 Goku? I mean, there are ways to explain it, but none seem entirely consistent, nor are any delivered in-series.

It seems the explanation of it is in the anime where Vegeta trained in the ROSAT and later nearly destroyed Black. It's too early to tell maybe we'll get some explanation on the next chapter.
 

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I have my doubts on that, since in the manga the fight seems to be following the anime now, plus Goku said that he and Vegeta were almost maxed out at their natural limits by the time of the U6 Arc. The manga could contradict that like the anime, but I had more faith in Toyotaro's consistency up until now. My guess is that Vegeta trained to decrease the difference between his lower forms and God forms, but until we actually get confirmation, it's still too much of an assumption, something the manga shouldn't be leading people down without proper hints.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
I have my doubts on that, since in the manga the fight seems to be following the anime now, plus Goku said that he and Vegeta were almost maxed out at their natural limits by the time of the U6 Arc. The manga could contradict that like the anime, but I had more faith in Toyotaro's consistency up until now. My guess is that Vegeta trained to decrease the difference between his lower forms and God forms, but until we actually get confirmation, it's still too much of an assumption, something the manga shouldn't be leading people down without proper hints.
But the problem is that SSJB was already implied to be "only" ~ 10x SSJ. If Vegeta just lowered the difference between the lower forms, then the SSJB multiplier would be barely a boost.
 

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It's implied to be significantly larger than that, considering Whis only confirmed Goku's power had surpassed 10% of SSB Vegeta once he transformed into a Super Saiyan God.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
It's implied to be significantly larger than that, considering Whis only confirmed Goku's power had surpassed 10% of SSB Vegeta once he transformed into a Super Saiyan God.
Not significantly, seeing as Whis states Hit's stop technique only works when the enemy is lower than him or at his level. Considering it worked on <10% Vegeta, then we know Hit was >= him. Even so, Goku SSJ was keeping up just fine with Hit, losing only due to his stamina getting lower and lower.
 

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I bet ten bucks that at the end of this arc, Masako Nozawa and Toyotaro are gonna drop him off at a retirement home and write the rest of the series themselves.
 
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