An attempt at trying to quantify Janemba

Pakl

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Janemba seems to do a power-up when he sees Super Gogeta. I think that explains why SSJ3 Goku could fight back a bit: Janemba was just toying with him.




@Pakl low resolution but I think you might like this. Confirmation from the man himself on how the movies fit into the timelines.
Actually, I have the set stone right here.

Remember this thread?


Here, I showed why the movie villians are comparable to the strongest character shown in the manga 3 months ago based on Toroyama reading the script for movie 8 three months prior to its release. We'll, look what I found. An interview with Koyama in 2006.

How did you create the original stories for the theatrical movies?

When we made the episodes for the theatrical features, first the scriptwriter, the producer, and Toriyama-sensei‘s supervising editor would get together, and meet about story concepts, such as what to do about the main villain. Then I would put together a plot based on the content of what we’d talked about. I’d send that plot to Toriyama-sensei and get his opinion on it, then start writing out the scenario — that was the typical flow. Once I got to writing, I’d be joined at the hip with the producer.
With regards to the contents, there was the restriction that the movie “not progress into story settings further ahead than the TV anime at the time of its premiere”; for example, even if I’d decided to do fusion, I wouldn’t be allowed to do it ahead of the TV anime or the original manga.1 So I’d always be conscious of its state of progress on TV, and if we were doing the Freeza arc in the TV anime at the time of the premiere, a story would be born with the sense of, “Let’s bring out Freeza’s older brother!” Except, at times such as when the state of production on the TV anime caught up to the original work, it would be extremely tough with nothing to use as hints, and I received ideas directly from Toriyama-sensei.

It would take about three months’ time from the planning stage until the completion of a single movie’s scenario. Dragon Ball Z had two movies shown each year, in spring and summer, so that works out to me having been writing a theatrical movie scenario for over half a given year at the time. (laughs)

Look at the bold parts. I actually claimed this way before I saw this interview.

Here is the link for the full interview.

 

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Even then, I don't know why a guide specifically made for the manga would count in the anime in which Gogeta pertains. Going by what the movie and anime suggests Base Gogeta could've pretty much been plenty for Janemba.

Point is, that Gogeta or any metamoran Fusion wouldn't be affected by having to lower powers, this is also shown with Base Gotenks' confidence on defeating Majin Buu, even though his strongest part is no match and he knowing that while together they are too weak to fight him.
 

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