Android #19 (Post) vs Sick Goku

[GSM123]

Who wins? Sick Goku's power isn't dropping and he knows about absorbtions.

 

[Pyro]

I don't think Goku's sick power would be less than 60% of his full power, so he should still be at or stronger than his Yardrat level. #19's strength after absorption is near impossible to figure out due to how much Goku's power drops and not having something to compare that to. But given that I don't put Piccolo too far above Yardrat Goku, and he shouldn't have a problem with #19, I'd still hand this to Goku.

SSj Goku (sick) ~ Piccolo >> #20 (post) >=< #19 (post) >?< SSj Yardrat Goku

 

[ahill1]

I think they're around the same power. I'd say Goku has it due to skillz, although fatso's durability and Goku not using chi blasts would prove this fight a real test for Goku.

 

[GSM123]

[mention]ahill1[/mention] [mention]Pyro[/mention] do you think this implies #19 post > Sick Goku?
Chapter 343 (DBZ 149), P12,1
Context: after Vegeta goes on and on about his Super Saiyan form
No.20: “Let’s stop the nonsense at that. Just changing like that naturally won’t make you a match for us androids. Just like Son Goku earlier…”

Sure, Gero can be refering to how #19 can drain Vegeta's power, but the way he reacts to Vegeta smacking #19 implies otherwise.

 

[ahill1]

Maybe. I think that could be a point for #19's superirority over Goku.

 

[GSM123]

I've been doing a research about #19 and #20's power and there's hardly any evidence for them being > Freeza. Most people do it because of gaps and stuff like Vegeta not tanking 19 and Piccolo not one shotting #20 despite both Veggie and Pic being like 2x Freeza. There's hardly any real statement implying they're >> Freeza.

 

[Pyro]

One-shotting in general is dookie. It's more that Piccolo didn't find it reasonable to question the androids' strength until he finally fought one, whereas he witnessed #19 fight Goku and Vegeta.

As for your Q, I think he underestimated Vegeta just like he underestimated Goku. It's stupid of him to do it twice, but Goku did eventually succumb to #19, so...

 

[Captain Cadaver]

One-shotting in general is dookie. It's more that Piccolo didn't find it reasonable to question the androids' strength until he finally fought one, whereas he witnessed #19 fight Goku and Vegeta.

I'd say oneshotting, whilst a case-by-case thing, ought to be considered for this discussion. After all, this was during the same section of the arc where Trunks oneshotting the likes of Freeza was made a big deal of at least twice.

 

[p123]

They are around the same power, I think I'd give Sick Goku a slight edge in power.

 

[Victorious]

Yeah this one is a toss up for me as well...it's like 50/50.

I think the post absorbtion Androids are about sick Goku [initial/pre KHH] level. Which shows you how much of a beast SSJ Vegeta, and even Piccolo are.