Android Arc Tenshinhan vs Namek Goku

[GSM123]

Goku when he fought Freeza. No Kaioken, no Kikoho.

I did a Yamcha vs 18k Vegeta post a few days ago and it seemed logical the humans would surpass Saiyan Arc levels. But what about Namek levels? Could Tenshinhan keep up with his former rival after the later's multiple zenkais?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Are we talking pre or post-Ginyu Zenkai? If it's pre, I'd say even Mecha Freeza Arc Ten oneshots given how much power Piccolo gained from 6 days on Kaio's, regardless of Piccolo's haxed gains. If it's post, I'd still say Ten, considering I doubt he'd bother showing up to help out against foes who could stomp a Super Saiyan if he weren't at least above post-Yardrat Base Galu.

 

[GSM123]

On the OP i said it was Goku when he fought Freeza, so this is Post Zenkai. How strong you think the Mecha Arc earthlings were, CC? Given Piccolo's gainz on a week i struggle to see them below 2nd form Freeza by this point. Even if i nerf their gains due to Piccolo naturally being more gifted, i don't see them any lower than 1st form Freeza.

I agree about Android Earthlings > Base Yardrat. I like to keep Yamcha as Yardrat Goku's equal since he didn't even think the Androids were real and wasn't really expecting to fight. Gero and Tenshinhan only comenting on Goku being >>>> what they expected after Goku turns Super Saiyan kind of tells me the earthlings were able to close the huge gap between them and the Base Saiyans.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

On the OP i said it was Goku when he fought Freeza, so this is Post Zenkai. How strong you think the Mecha Arc earthlings were, CC? Given Piccolo's gainz on a week i struggle to see them below 2nd form Freeza by this point. Even if i nerf their gains due to Piccolo naturally being more gifted, i don't see them any lower than 1st form Freeza.

Considering Piccolo's gains, I consider their power against the Ginyus in filler to be a good placement for them either during that point or after their revivals. After that, you can reduce their gains by assuming that they weren't able to find a good training method on Earth's compared to Kaio's and only made minimal gains throughout the next few months.

 

[Animelover5487]

Does the Earthlings showing up against the Androids really mean anything? Them showing up when they are many times weaker than a SS Trunks who got stomped by the Androids doesn't make sense regardless unless you are using a VERY low multiplier but judging how the humans still make Freeza out to be a big deal then yeah it doesn't make sense when Trunks casually defeated him.

The humans power is a bit vague, to say the least.

 

[GSM123]

Does the Earthlings showing up against the Androids really mean anything?

Not really. Yamcha thought the Androids weren't real, Kuririn lacked confidence from the start and Tenshinhan was relieved to see how strong Piccolo and Vegeta got. The earthlings were only supposed to back up the SSJs, they don't really need to be that strong.

 

[Animelover5487]

Does the Earthlings showing up against the Androids really mean anything?

Not really. Yamcha thought the Androids weren't real, Kuririn lacked confidence from the start and Tenshinhan was relieved to see how strong Piccolo and Vegeta got. The earthlings were only supposed to back up the SSJs, they don't really need to be that strong.

Then why do the Earthlings need to be above Yardrat Base Saiyans?

Goku trained on King Kai's planet longer but let's just say they made the same gains as Goku, that means they would be around 50,000-70,000 so the filler with them defeating the Ginyu Force is probably accurate.

After the three years of training for the Androids there is not really any clear cut statement on how much stronger they have become. At the least, I would say Kuririn is miles over the other humans since he actually has statements of being relevant to monsters like 1st Form Freeza prior to the Android arc, plus it explains how Kuririn is still stronger than Ten all throughout Super despite Kuririn retiring from fighting.

 

[SSJ2]

Goku was not on Kaio' s planet longer.

 

[Pyro]

Goku stomps this butterball beotch. I've come to accept the humans having a tough time scratching the 1 million mark until Super. There's just no real reason for it.

 

[GSM123]

How strong you have 'em KP? You're not one of those nerfers who think they never got on Nappa's level, right?