Anton the Great vs Bear Bandit

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Yeah, so don't you think Anton would slaughter based on that? Unless you are going by BoDB Goku =10, which I think is nonsense.
 

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Andre the Giant vs the world's top fighter is how I see it. I would give the edge to the worlds top fighter to somehow find a way to win. It is going to be ugly though.
 

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Hercule is able to basically two shot the Gun Man who seems like your average tough guy. I'm ok with putting Hercule at 7 or so, maybe even 7.5.

The best martial artist in the world being 1.5x the farmer sounds about right. Even if the speed isn't there, 1.5x is generally a one shot range and a hell of a lot of fighters in our world can easily one shot the farmer.

Mr. Satan didn't two shot him. Did you not see all the hits Satan landed on him. You can clearly tell from his facial expression that he couldn't casually defeat him.

As for he topic, Yamcha was worried about Krillin fighting him and thought Krillin would lose. So....Anton > 21st Krillin.
 

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Farmer 5
Mr. Satan 7
Videl 8
Spopovich 10
Yamu 10
Pterodactyl 23
Bear Bandit 25
Kuririn ( BoD ) 30
Yamcha ( BoD ) 45
Son Goku ( BoD ) 50


Bear Bandit is 2.5x stronger than Spopovich and Yamu ? Seems a bit odd to me.
 

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As far as I saw Hercule two shotted the gun man.

Is Anton the Great bigger than Bear Bandit?
 

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Based off the artstyle and Satan's expression after the fight it looks like Satan hit him several times, and even after the Gunman was still conscious and had enough strength to pull his gun's trigger and shoot Satan.

Why do you keep harping on Anton anyway. He's a filler character and based off statements he would be stronger than 21st Krillin. Besides his size doesn't necessarily make him a superhuman. Look how huge Pintar is, but Mr. Satan of all people is apparently stronger than him.
 

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He's in the manga. He's the first opponent that Krillen fights at the 22nd Budokai. Anton is much larger than the Bear Bandit. If Anton, a regular human, can defeat the Bear Bandit, it completely changes a lot of people's point of view on how the initial DB powers relate to regular humans.
 

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Super Saiyan God said:
He's in the manga. He's the first opponent that Krillen fights at the 22nd Budokai. Anton is much larger than the Bear Bandit. If Anton, a regular human, can defeat the Bear Bandit, it completely changes a lot of people's point of view on how the initial DB powers relate to regular humans.

Now that I think about it, Mr. Satan could be stronger than Bear Bandit... size doesn't mean so much in DB. Look at Pintar - he's weaker than Mr.Satan. There's nothing wrong about Pintar, Anton the great and Bear Bandit being in the same tier of power, there is ?
 

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I seriously doubt that. Hercule can beat Pintar sure, but Pintar seems to be pretty normal sized. He's a large man don't get me wrong. But Pintar is probably up to Anton the Great and Bear Bandit stomach.

Size should mean a lot for non ki users imo. A T-Rex is still a beast because of it's size and nothing more.

Anton the Great > Bear Bandit >>> Hercule > Pintar


I'd probably go with something like that right now.
 

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Sergeant Metallic clearly. But Arnold is a normal human being. The person Sergeant Metallic is mimicking is the Terminator. Now that imo, is an even match.
 

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Sergeant Metallic = Terminator >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prime Arnold / Hercule
 

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Take a guess who would be the alpha male here.
 

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Ah, I see Anton was in the manga. Yeah he's much bigger than Pintar. Hmm, not sure if he could beat the Bear Bandit.
 

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I think he would beat the Bear Bandit. He's much bigger than him. Nothing suggests bear strength or ape strength is superior to human strength when talking equal size. Dragonball is a land where animals are just like humans.
 

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Yea, I'd say the Bear Bandit is significantly smaller than Anton the Great.
 

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Well for what it's worth BODB Goku and Krillin were still considered normal humans by Master Roshi so in the Dragonball verse being stronger than a bear wouldn't necessarily make you superhuman anyway.
 

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Yes this is what I'm talking about. In the Budokai's, they fight all sorts of animals that are like humans. A dog is the King of the world. They have gorillas, wolves and alligators fighting. So the clear divide between animals and humans is just not there.

Roshi's superhuman comments hold little weight, they are on par with Tao Pai Pai being surpassed and the shock and Roshi's non stop "what will happen to my position" bullshit. It doesn't really make sense. Goku is performing superhuman feats left and right. Perhaps he was only talking about speed.
 

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