Are power levels Bullshit?

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Alot of youtubers are making these power levels videos, such as Expergamez. I honestly dont have a problem with gauging the power levels themselves but I see 2 things wrong with this formula. To an extent, Super demonstrates that is doesnt want to rely on power levels like Z did. Vegeta at Super Saiyan 2 gave it all he had against Kid Buu, and even though he got some good hits in. He was eventually overwhelmed. In Super Trunks gave it all he had and went toe to toe for a little bit against Super Saiyan Rose and even matched Super Saiyan 3. So I think that Super is taking into affect a mixture of power levels and circumstances of the battlefield and each individual fighter. The second this is that these power level videos gauge the forms from Z to lowley. Tied in to the first problem, Trunks seems to have a SS2 as Strong as SS3, and a SS2 that can fight against SSRose witch is ment to be stronger slightly than Super Saiyan Blue. So These are the two problems I have with this system. Its an archaic one that we brought with us from Z that eventually made everything stale because the only real good fighters were the saiyans. Super is more about what can happen during the fight, like Hit taking out Super Saiyn Blue Vegeta and a blaster gun taking out Goku. Anybody can take these guys out if they let their guard down with the exception of beerus. What do you guys think?
 

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The concept of power levels are invalid starting at the Android saga. Toriyama was smart enough not to suffocate himself with the concept. (However us fans continue to do so.)
 

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From the saiyan saga and until Bu saga everything was detailed and coherent enough to pinpoint how strong any character is. Of course, that's if you go with the manga instead of the anime.
 

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Yes, they are fucking pointless and serve no real purpose.
 

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DCock said:
Yes, they are fucking pointless and serve no real purpose.
They in fact explain a lot of things Toriyama left implicit, for example, why Goku needed a KKx4 to surpass the Garlik Ho when a moment before with a KKx3 was superior to Vegeta.
They're so important that when Toriyama wrote the FnF script he used the power levels of the manga, and suddenly you have a big part of the "fans" (fans of the anime, not the manga) crying because "it's not possible that in 4 months Freezer can have such a big power up".
 

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DCock said:
Oh yes, just so important.
Well, it's a Dragon Ball forum, nothing in here is "important". But in the context of the series yes, they're one of the most important aspects of it.
 
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