Are the Shichibukais like...

[Fantastische Hure]

the God of Destructions to the Yonko's Angels or Zenō?

Can someone explain the hierarchy to me? This interested me, but I lost track of the story (because of stupid television people) long ago.

And if so how come Crocodile was one of them? He got defeated fairly early-on.

 

[SSJ2]

Crocodile got retconned badly.

They are really just their own entity who cooperate with the WG in order to legally be pirates. Some are stronger than others. Buggy for example got in as he had influence over a large # of pirates.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Crocodile got retconned badly.

They are really just their own entity who cooperate with the WG in order to legally be pirates. Some are stronger than others. Buggy for example got in as he had influence over a large # of pirates.

So how come someone like Doflamingo doesn't just say f this shit and takes-over Crocodile's district too? Besides trouble with the Government or being lazy.

 

[SSJ2]

The Government would kill him because he ruined the balance of power. They mention keeping the main 3 powers (Yonko, WG, Shichibukai) at balance fairly frequently, so Doflamingo would be punished,

 

[Captain Cadaver]

In terms of power comparison, you could say that, but not in terms of ranking, considering the Yonko, Marines and Shichibukai are all the three great powers, thereby all holding similar influence over the world.

 

[SSJ2]

Makes me think Mihawk alone must be Yonko tier. How else would the Shichibukai gain any respect?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Well, most Shichibukai still tend to be above most Marines in terms of power, bar Fleet Admirals, Admirals and a few select Vice Admirals, so they've still got roughly even footing as a collective. Plus, the combined force of a Shichibukai could probably take down one of the Yonko, crew and all.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Well, most Shichibukai still tend to be above most Marines in terms of power, bar Fleet Admirals, Admirals and a few select Vice Admirals, so they've still got roughly even footing as a collective. Plus, the combined force of a Shichibukai could probably take down one of the Yonko, crew and all.

Couldn't Hawk-Eye himself arguably take-on a Yonko on his own? He had a sparring-match with Shanks.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Assuming Shanks didn't improve at all since their battles during that time, but I find that doubtful. He ought to at least be on Admiral tier though.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Assuming Shanks didn't improve at all since their battles during that time, but I find that doubtful. He ought to at least be on Admiral tier though.

Well Shanks did presumably have both his arms at the time and Hawk-Eye won't even entertain the notion of fighting him anymore because it'd be unfair. Maybe he's also secretly trying to avoid getting embarassed by losing to someone with one arm, but who knows.

 

[SSJ2]

I see them as rivals, but Shanks has a crew of other beasts.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Well Shanks did presumably have both his arms at the time and Hawk-Eye won't even entertain the notion of fighting him anymore because it'd be unfair. Maybe he's also secretly trying to avoid getting embarassed by losing to someone with one arm, but who knows.

Could be Mihawk was overestimating himself or underestimating Yonko tier. After all, he wasn't sure how strong Whitebeard was at Marineford, since he wouldn't have felt like comparing his power to WB's if he did.

Also, the way WB talked about Shanks and Mihawk's duels would suggest they weren't capable of holding their own with him during that time. Shanks likely wasn't as skilled in Haki as he is now.

I still think the two shouldn't be leagues apart, since Oda's SBS statements in which he mentions some of the top tiers tend to include Mihawk, but I think Shanks is definitely the stronger of the two.

 

[SSJ2]

Could Mihawk testing WB not be more of a testament to his power than anything? He's testing the guy known as the strongest man alive trying to see where he stood. He must be up near that tier to even think of trying at least. At least for someone as intelligent and rational as Mihawk. I think he's slightly below Shanks too, for the record.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Could Mihawk testing WB not be more of a testament to his power than anything? He's testing the guy known as the strongest man alive trying to see where he stood. He must be up near that tier to even think of trying at least. At least for someone as intelligent and rational as Mihawk. I think he's slightly below Shanks too, for the record.

You could interprate it that way, though you could also say he was merely curious on how large the gap was between the world's strongest man and world's strongest swordsman. Also, for someone so keen to test himself, he sure decided to play it on easy mode by just doing a ranged attack. I think that much covers the argument for his rationality being in play.

 

[SSJ2]

True enough, that could actually be countered to show WB >> Mihawk based on him staying at range. However he also would've had to actually make it to WB first, and the commanders were in the way iirc.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yeah, most the commanders were there to cover him. However, it would stand to reason the Shichibukai and possibly the Admirals would do the same if Mihawk were to move so recklessly. After all, Marco, Jozu and Vista are the only ones that seem a threat and there's obviously a great difference between some of the Commanders (eg. Curiel being at best on Base Moriah's level), so if Mihawk were to have his allies stalemate the big three, the rest would be fodder before he takes on WB. Of course, sitting back was the smartest move, but it also seems strange Mihawk would bother to test Whitebeard with an attack that would lose a fair amount of it's force by the time it made impact.

 

[SSJ2]

I dunno man, considering it had enough force to shatter that ice burg that was so far away, I think it maintained good force.

 

[Symbiote]

Whitebeard was still fighting with half of his head melted off his body. Until someone else shows a feat on par with WB will always be the strongest in the OP world dead or alive in my book, dead or alive.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Whitebeard was still fighting with half of his head melted off his body. Until someone else shows a feat on par with WB will always be the strongest in the OP world dead or alive in my book, dead or alive.

Gold Roger?

 

[Symbiote]

What did Roger do besides find Raftel? Since we have literally next to nothing on him WB is still my top dog.