Baby induced power ups.

[Southern Gothic]

How much of a boost do you think the Saiyans got from being possessed by Baby. We saw two types, with Gohan, Goten and the others being possessed, while Vegeta was the victim of complete assimilation.

Baby possession: 25% boost. Nobody who got the partial possession showed any real improvement. Gohan and Goten were thrashed by Base Goku as well as SSJ2 Vegeta. Plus, pan survived a direct blast from Baby Gohan without damage. Plus Bra showed no improvement at all, save for the Bukujutsu.

Baby Assimilation: 100% increase. This really isn't much, but I think it covers Goku all the way up to SSJ2, and he never went SSJ3 long enough to truly know the difference before Baby absorbed the Saiyans power.

Overall, I am coming up with this as I type it up, so my mind is by no means set in stone.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I think like 4x for Vegeta since I assume that he and Goku are equals and by Baby's power up, Baby Vegeta was able to beat Goku as a Ssjin3. I don't know about Gohan and te others, i just assume 30% is enough IMO.

 

[Southern Gothic]

I think like 4x for Vegeta since I assume that he and Goku are equals and by Baby's power up, Baby Vegeta was able to beat Goku as a Ssjin3. I don't know about Gohan and te others, i just assume 30% is enough IMO.

I'm cool with maxing Vegeta out like that. I was uncomfortable using the first SSJ3 figjt, because it lasted two moves. Goku landed a punch and Baby dodged the next one. Then Son reverted.

Seems like we more or less agree about the others.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Im still not sure about the gap between Goku and Vegeta since Goku powered up a lot in the space.

 

[Southern Gothic]

He did.

But they both manhandled Baby Goten and Gohan. Goku had an easier time of it in Base, but he was always ahead, and like you said, he had the whole space adventure.

Maybe about the same gap as in the cell games, slightly on the lower side.

 

[Whipedkillsmiled]

It's OK to assume anything around 5x or 6x to make Vegeta SSJ3 stomp worthy. The same boost on everyone else doesn't matter it's not like they've been training. They should be way weaker than before and considering how strong Goku is now even 5x or 6x wouldn't be enough to catch up. With the exception of Vegeta.

 

[Pyro]

He did.

But they both manhandled Baby Goten and Gohan. Goku had an easier time of it in Base, but he was always ahead, and like you said, he had the whole space adventure.

Maybe about the same gap as in the cell games, slightly on the lower side.

At the same time, Gohan and Goten were ready to continue fighting Goku and weren't all that concerned after their short fight. Vegeta knocked them straight out.

 

[Southern Gothic]

He did.

But they both manhandled Baby Goten and Gohan. Goku had an easier time of it in Base, but he was always ahead, and like you said, he had the whole space adventure.

Maybe about the same gap as in the cell games, slightly on the lower side.

At the same time, Gohan and Goten were ready to continue fighting Goku and weren't all that concerned after their short fight. Vegeta knocked them straight out.

What would be your thoughts on the implication of this? Less of a gap between Goku and Vegeta?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

For Gohan, Goten, Trunks, etc., just their power + Teen Baby's. About 7.5x Vegeta's SS2 form for Vegeta-Baby.

Dende, Popo and Bra somehow got an astronomically larger boost, based on the former two being implied to be a threat to Kibitoshin, whereas the latter was somewhat confident in her ability to act as support for Baby against Goku.

 

[Pyro]

He did.

But they both manhandled Baby Goten and Gohan. Goku had an easier time of it in Base, but he was always ahead, and like you said, he had the whole space adventure.

Maybe about the same gap as in the cell games, slightly on the lower side.

At the same time, Gohan and Goten were ready to continue fighting Goku and weren't all that concerned after their short fight. Vegeta knocked them straight out.

What would be your thoughts on the implication of this? Less of a gap between Goku and Vegeta?

Yes. I think Vegeta is criminally underrated at this point in the story due to him actually fighting Gohan and Goten while their fight with Goku seemed to only just be beginning.