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SSJ Vegeta (Pre Rosat): 1,250
Kamiccolo: 2,000
~ Light Grenade: 3,000
Android 16: 5,000
Semi Cell: 12,000
SSJ Vegeta: 12,500
SSJG2 Vegeta: 20,000
Perfect Cell: 50,000
SSJG3 Trunks: 60,000
50% SSJ Goku: 100,000

Warm up SSJ Goku/Cell: 50,000
FP SSJ Goku: 200,000
Powered up Cell: 225,000
SSJ Gohan: 320,000
Cell (Speed up): 320,000
Cell Jrs: 125,000
SSJ Vegeta: 125,000
SSJ Trunks: 120,000
Kamiccolo: 112,500

Goku (Boo): 7,200
Kid Gohan: 6,400
Vegeta/Goku (Suppressed): 5,760
Yakon: 5,400
Gohan: 4,800
Trunks: 4,500
Goten: 4,320
Pocus/Goku (CG): 4,000
Shin: 3,000
Kamiccolo (Rosat retconed): 2,000
Cyborg 18: 1,750*

*Trunks flat out said they couldn't win head to head even as SSJs because of the suit holding them back, so the Kids can still be worlds above 18 and struggle like that. They recovered from 18 slaming them head first against the ring like nothing, after all.

As for Shin >> Kamiccolo, it's not because of Kamiccolo's statement as he could not sense Shin, but because of Shin's confidence to fight Kamiccolo on the Budokai.
 

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Was Shin ever confident? He was confident about being in his head.
 

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Shin's confidence? To me, it was because of Shin's position of authority. He is the Lord of Lords while Piccolo was once guardian of Earth. When Piccolo revealed Shin is the Lord of Lords, Goku, Kuririn, Gohan, and even Vegeta was shock. To all of them, including Piccolo, being a God, especially God of Gods must mean you are powerful, which Shin is, just not as powerful as the full blooded Saiyans because you've to make the full blooded Saiyans look strong.
 

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He entered the ring smiling and was surprised when Kamiccolo decided to forfeit.

Though Shin > Kamiccolo is BS no matter how you look at it :idk
 

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