Base Saiyan List

[FeatsofPower]

Goku 5,000
Kid Gohan 4,500
Vegeta 4,000
Teen Gohan 3,000
Goku (CG) 3,000
New Estimated Saiyans 2,500
Vegeta (CG) 2,000
Trunks (CG) 2,000
Pui Pui 1,500
Estimated Saiyans 1,000
Kaioshin 750
Piccolo 500
Android 17 250
Android 18 225

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Goku: 30,000
Kid Gohan/Vegeta: 24,000
Teen Gohan: 20,000
Expected Saiyans 2: 20,000
Goku (CG): 18,000
Pui Pui: 14,000
Expected Saiyans 1: Anywhere between 10 and 14k
Shin: 10,000
Piccolo: 6,400
Android 17: 3,150
Android 18/Kid Trunks: 3,000
Weighted Kamiccolo/Goten: 2,880

 

[FeatsofPower]

Pui Pui: 14,000
Expected Saiyans 1: Anywhere between 10 and 14k
Shin: 10,000

You seem to be very resistant to the fundamental logic being outlined here.

Kaioshin is not even a thought, he cannot be close to Expected Saiyans. He wants to spar with Goku but doesn’t think he’d have a chance. He doesn’t think he rivals Goku he thinks Goku is far stronger.

Pui Pui is expected to kill the 3 Saiyans in a minute.

Kaioshin is terrified and thinks all four of them have to fight to have a chance.

It’s so clear cut. Why the resistance?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Man you’re really crazy on that Pui Pui dick aren’t you?

 

[FeatsofPower]

Man you’re really crazy on that Pui Pui dick aren’t you?

Well this is one of the most underrated characters in the entire series and the Buu Saga literally does not make sense when interpreted the way most people do. I’m all about being accurate and finding the truth.

The truth hurts here unfortunately, but this the most logical option.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

It’s just that we’ve been going back and forth on this for weeks man. Even Kyo (and EV a while ago) debated you on this. Just thought we’d stop bringing it up by this point. Kaioshin and Babidi’s opinions are complete opposites and you’re acting like they’re the same.

 

[FeatsofPower]

It’s just that we’ve been going back and forth on this for weeks man. Even Kyo (and EV a while ago) debated you on this. Just thought we’d stop bringing it up by this point. Kaioshin and Babidi’s opinions are complete opposites and you’re acting like they’re the same.

Where are Kaioshin and Badibis opinions complete opposites?

I’m closer than ever to solidifying the narrative numerically so this is a crucial time to test for inadequate logic.

You seem to be the one debating me more than anyone on the topic, if you don’t enjoy the subject, you don’t have to participate, but you shouldn’t tell people what they can and can’t talk about.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Kaioshin says one of the Saiyans is the strongest in the universe and remembers SSJ2 Gohan. You’re just running to the other extreme here.

We shouldn’t even be wasting this much time fighting over this. We both have Pui Pui >>> Kaioshin! We should be fighting the people who think Pui Pui is Ginyu level instead.

 

[FeatsofPower]

Kaioshin says one of the Saiyans is the strongest in the universe and remembers SSJ2 Gohan. You’re just running to the other extreme here.

He doesn’t know how strong Super Saiyan 2 Gohan actually is. He’s constantly shocked by the Saiyans assertions that Dabura is light work despite Dabura being a Super Saiyan level opponent.

We shouldn’t even be wasting this much time fighting over this. We both have Pui Pui >>> Kaioshin! We should be fighting the people who think Pui Pui is Ginyu level instead.

I’m not fighting with you, I’m engaging in a friendly debate, battle testing my interpretation of my the material. An important process in the fact finding step.

I think my Pui Pui argument is about as bulletproof as it can get. I think you are frustrated by the length of the discussion because you are becoming aware of the weakness of your own argument and knowing the longer this goes on the more likely it is you’ll have to submit to my proposal, which you have a personal issue against.