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Ain't no way boy. A flight aura is your evidence for putting this buffoon above Kami? Nah..
BoDB Goku vs Spopovich
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It's just an art change bruh. You think AT is thinking about all that?
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Because Goku couldn't even maintain flight for long while running on Snake Road while Spopovich and Yamu showed zero sign of exhaustion, which we know Majin aren't impervious to, after flying a huge distance away from the tournament arena, far enough that it took Gohan and Kibito a decent while to catch up to just the head start the others had gotten.
Spopovich absolutely wrecks the clown who's below Panputto. It was literally stated that one ki blast from a toying Spopovich would have killed Videl. Spopo was in no way at full power when he took her kick, using that feat is like saying Kuririn can blast a hole through Vegeta because he did so when Vegeta suppressed his strength.
Goku and Piccolo being gods to regular Earthlings is irrelevant, because any Freeza solider on Namek makes them both look like crap. Yamu and Spopovich can easily be in the three digits with the flight and stamina feat they displayed, it wouldn't detract from their role in the story as they would be equally weak to SSJ tiers as if they were in lower digits
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Kami physically cannot get his neck broken by Videl.
All you’ve proven is Spopo is a better flyer, big whoop.
Guess who else can kill Videl with a ki blast? Literally anyone.
Killing Videl and flying fast is your big thing? This ain’t it brother
Kami physically cannot get his neck broken by Videl.
All you’ve proven is Spopo is a better flyer, big whoop.
Guess who else can kill Videl with a ki blast? Literally anyone.
Killing Videl and flying fast is your big thing? This ain’t it brother
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A one handed blast from Kuririn basically killed Vegeta when he was suppressed, a rock thrown by base Goten threatened SSJ Gohan at an unspecified level of power. Suppression can alter a character's durability tremendously. Hell, even Super Boo, a variation of Boo, can range in durability from getting pierced by bullets to literally not losing his form from SSJ3 Gotenks' Die Die Missiles. And Boos have some of the worst durability feats in the series, showing what a difference Ki defense can make.
It was a kiai, the same kind that Goku didn't even damage the Ginyus with while he was stomping them. A muuuuuch more intensely charged kiai from Ten being used to deflect Tao's Dodonpa was stated to be a feat because that blast is usually worth nothing beyond pushing people back. The idea that Spopovich was anywhere near within competing distance to Videl is INSANE. He would absolutely murk her had he raised his power even slightly.
Goku ran out of juice after a few miles. 22nd Ten can barely levitate to Goku in a few seconds. Spopovich can probably fly halfway across the Earth without exhaustion. There is no way any of Videl's feats are valid if he has that much Ki to fly with.
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There's no reason for Spopovich to be so suppressed. Your interpretation is jarring. Bro is just a regular dude. What you think the Majin boost is a Super Saiyan boost now?
Videl is super weakened and probably is nowhere near her full power. Spopo got his neck broke, it's insane to think he's 2x Videl, let alone 10 fold regardless of all that.
Perhaps he's a better flyer than Goku was.
AT never intended to make Spopovich capable of one shotting King Piccolo my brother. I can't see it.
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It was literally stated that Spopovich suppressed his Ki blast and you you're contending that he was suppressing...? Bruh.
Babidi's magic charm draws our a person's potential past its limits. therefore, it's more potent than the God Water Goku drank which was stated to be useless past a certain limit. If this charm works on beasts like Dabura and Vegeta it can easily bring untrained fighters to the hundreds.
I already showed you examples of guys dying from nothing blasts while suppressed, Super Boo when his guard was up didn't even get blown up by a serious mouth blast from Gotenks when while not applying Ki defense, he has the literal worst durability feat in the series. Ki IS the driving force of every superhuman's feats.
Also, Videl hadnt even gotten her teeth broken yet. She coulr still fly in the air. She was hardly grievously injured.
A Saibaman would kill a thousand KPs. His plot relevance means less than nothing at this stage, that's like saying Blue backed Goku to a corner, so he must still be a badass no Earthling can hope to reach.
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Spopo suppressed to 1% of his power bruh?
People who aren't capable of ki amp defense get roasted by same level ki blasts. Ki blasts work very differently for those trained and those not trained. Sergeant Metallic is probably equal with Goku and got demolished by a ki blast.
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A saibaman has like a whole thing shown how massively powerful he is.
A flight aura and killing Videl of all people is a nothing burger.
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Why not? Wouldn't you say 18 was supressing to a milionth of her 10% when stomping Jewel? Videl is just an above average martial artist for regular Earthling standards. Of course Spopovich would suppress himself when actively trying not to kill her.
That was allowed to happen because it wouldn't kill a machine. If Spopovich can fly at extreme speeds that would take a guy close to if not in the fourth digits to reach, he has Ki beyond any Part 1 character. We see that Majin Vegeta, another recipient of the charm, is literally no better with amping Ki or flying compared to a guy equal to him. Otherwise, Vegeta would be outspeeding Goku the moment he activates flight at all and would easily win. Nor do PuiPui or Yakon show any such feats, they were absolute fodder to guys stronger than them. Dabura was two-shotted by Boo and showed no notable Ki feats beyond an equal to him. So Spopo's Ki feats are all his pure strength that was drawn out through Babidi's charm.
It isn't a nothing burger at all. Spopovich factually has a speed feat beyond any Part 1 character. If he could fly and dodge/catch BoZ Piccolo with ease, he's no way in hell in the single digits in power bruh.
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Imagine if 18 got her neck broken by Jewel.
Why suppress so low. What was the point?
Show me this amazing speed feat. Do you really think this is AT's intention?
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If she didn't have natural android durability and suppressed herself to Earthling levels, she certainly could.
To toy with Videl. He was stated to be prolonging the fight to torture her.
Lesser potential unlocksl like the God Water wouldn't even work on 23rd characters based on it being stated to be useless if you already have unlocked the potential you get released from it. Vegeta chose to let himself get controlled upon seeing Spopovich's increase in power and speed. I don't think Vegeta would give a shit about a guy who started off with a PL of 7 getting up to 12 with a potential unlock, it had to have been a vast increase for him to think it would work on him at all. And Spopovich and Yamu factually got to Babidi's ship faster than Gohan and Kibito did (during which they flew at full speed for a portion), so they are factually faster fliers than anyone seen in the first 16 volumes.
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Tbf Spopovich did look like he was enjoying torturing Videl. Getting her hopes up before beating her to a bloody pulp. That was definitely personal to spite her father.
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Why not do all that with a 1.1x advantage? Why get your damn neck broken. Spopo has no idea he could regenerate his neck like that.
I feel like Tao is probably traveling faster than Spopo on his log.
How fast is Spopo traveling, show me some proof.
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From an out of universe perspective, to show that Spopovich was unnaturally enhanced. From an in-universe perspective, Spopo was actively putting himself below Videl at first as seen by him taking a beating in the beginning. So he suffered from it, until he raised his power and was then able to kill Videl in one blast.
Tao can't end up faster than Gohan and Kibito no matter how much of a head start he gets.
Tao would get caught up by flight aura'd base Gohan and Kibito in a split second.
Also, nobody was suppressed yet until they'd caught up to Spopovich and Yamu:
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We know that Goku generally walks around with a BP of 5000 in the Freeza arc. Given his gains since then, he's probably stronger here prior to suppressing. If he doesn't instantly catch up to them while not suppressing further (and neither do Kibito and Gohan while actively putting up flight auras and trying to catch up), Spopovich and Yamu are factually very very fast, far faster than BoZ Goku and Piccolo were.
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Well, whether Toriyama was thinking of that or not, he showed that feat there... So it is the within the content, it is part of the pieces for the puzzle. If some pieces would make the puzzle more of a puzzle, but were still there, then we need those pieces too as well to complete the puzzle.
And I don't buy that he has way more chi, but don't know how to use that, as flying requires chi control, flying faster requires even more advanced chi control. He also suppressed the Kiai not to kill her, meaning he can suppress chi attacks. Goku said he has more power than his body can naturally handle or something like this iirc. It's not him saying Spopovich can't use that power, only that
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Yeah Spopovich seemed to be trying and was with a kinda shocked or wtv expression when she broke his neck. That doesn't align with his chi control as I made a point above, that he can use to win in 1 second... Then that's where the he was holding back is the way to make it all work even if it lacked a direct statement that Spopovich was holding back before Video got tire. Still, since he held back a Kiai blast, it also gives an eve stronger grip to this idea. He also didn't use chi at any point when she wasn't tired, didn't fly, only doing so when she did... Things he'd do if he were really losing giving his all... I imagine, since he seems like a sadistic maniac, he was expecting Mr. Satan (who defeated him in the previous tournament) to be watching this, so he wanted to make it painful by giving an initial hope then hurting his daughter slowly...
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Spopovitch might one shot Raditz.
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One interesting quote from Galu tho:
"He has powers beyond his natural abilities... But why... ? "
It's curious that Goku worded it as beyond his natural abilities upon seeing the Kiai and the Bukujutsu. The most common thing would be to say that Spopo had been suppressed before. The power beyond natural abilities would be kinda clear before the chi stuff too, just by seeing Spopovich drooling and being unfazed by the attacks etc... Goku had shown surprised at Spopo being unfazed hy the attack before and when he saw the chi blast, he said power beyond natural ability, which might mean Goku took those two attributes (over the top durability and chi usage on that level) as the abilities beyond Spopovich's natural one — the hand to hand battle in which he was getting outclassed.
Goku had also highlighted how unfazed Spopo looked after being outstriked as an intriguing thing. So like said above, his durability might align with the chi level he can display in chi blasts or Bukujutsu.. perhaps then he gets outstriked by Goku, but wins when Goku tires out or if Spopovich decided to throw a chi attack before they in a serious way.
"He has powers beyond his natural abilities... But why... ? "
It's curious that Goku worded it as beyond his natural abilities upon seeing the Kiai and the Bukujutsu. The most common thing would be to say that Spopo had been suppressed before. The power beyond natural abilities would be kinda clear before the chi stuff too, just by seeing Spopovich drooling and being unfazed by the attacks etc... Goku had shown surprised at Spopo being unfazed hy the attack before and when he saw the chi blast, he said power beyond natural ability, which might mean Goku took those two attributes (over the top durability and chi usage on that level) as the abilities beyond Spopovich's natural one — the hand to hand battle in which he was getting outclassed.
Goku had also highlighted how unfazed Spopo looked after being outstriked as an intriguing thing. So like said above, his durability might align with the chi level he can display in chi blasts or Bukujutsu.. perhaps then he gets outstriked by Goku, but wins when Goku tires out or if Spopovich decided to throw a chi attack before they in a serious way.
