Pocket-Gog~ said:BoGT Adult Goku is far stronger than both of hos sons, they already fought in the Baby saga and Goku had the clear advantage.
He is post tail and SSJ4. Before that he's actually weaker than BoGT Goku on account of being a kid.Animelover5487 said:Pocket-Gog~ said:BoGT Adult Goku is far stronger than both of hos sons, they already fought in the Baby saga and Goku had the clear advantage.
To my understanding, Baby arc Goku is considerably stronger than he was at the start of GT.
GreatSaiyaman123 said:Pretty sure Kid Goku being weaker than Adult is a myth, and so is Tail Goku > Tailess Goku.
Rildo had 2+ transformations and also powered up while in his first form. While on top of already being stronger than Majin Buu and Gohan by comparison.Super Saiyan said:Then explain why he needed SSJ to defeat Redjic but was capable of beating Base Rild while in Base.
Pyro said:He was suppressed. It was to have more fun with the fight.
Captain Cadaver said:With SS3, Gohan should have the power to win when considering Trunks never refuted Pan saying Goku was the strongest on Earth, making SS3 Goku at least above whatever Gohan's max form at the time was. That's a bit difficult to work with numerically when we have Base Goku (M2) >> Mega Cannon Sigma > Level 3 Lood > BoGT SSJ Goku, but what the series suggests >> fanbased battle power lists in terms of relevant evidence.
Captain Cadaver said:With SS3, Gohan should have the power to win when considering Trunks never refuted Pan saying Goku was the strongest on Earth, making SS3 Goku at least above whatever Gohan's max form at the time was. That's a bit difficult to work with numerically when we have Base Goku (M2) >> Mega Cannon Sigma > Level 3 Lood > BoGT SSJ Goku, but what the series suggests >> fanbased battle power lists in terms of relevant evidence.
Captain Cadaver said:With SS3, Gohan should have the power to win when considering Trunks never refuted Pan saying Goku was the strongest on Earth, making SS3 Goku at least above whatever Gohan's max form at the time was. That's a bit difficult to work with numerically when we have Base Goku (M2) >> Mega Cannon Sigma > Level 3 Lood > BoGT SSJ Goku, but what the series suggests >> fanbased battle power lists in terms of relevant evidence.
If that were the case, Goku would have pointed it out rather than waiting until Rild to make that statement.Pocket-Gog~ said:GT erred on the power levels, Ledgic could have been also stronger than Buu - that seems to be the impression with hindsight in mind.![]()
The Mega Cannon Sigma explicitly say the strength Goku had wasn't in the data after having seen Goku's performance against Redjic and Lood. As Curtis already said, there'd be no need to go SSJ in either situation if Goku could output more power in base. Moreover, you have Base Goku's later feats of his base form going from clearly far below his SS4 self to not leagues behind it during the Evil Dragon Arc or his gains in SSJ prior to it in the S17 Arc, so there's no reason to believe that wasn't the case prior to Baby; especially when the Baby Arc constantly has characters make statements about how great Saiya Power is.But Goku never actually got stronger in the story until he got SSJ4.
StillGreatSaiyaman123 said:But what if the battle power lists are the Captain's assortments?![]()
There's no implication given up to that point that Goku had any gains in power. I wish it could be explained as such, bit its just a :toei ismCaptain Cadaver said:If that were the case, Goku would have pointed it out rather than waiting until Rild to make that statement.
Because Goku just powered up against him, the implication of the show is that Goku never really powered up against anyone else beforehand. Even Ledgic, even though it makes no sense.The Mega Cannon Sigma explicitly say the strength Goku had wasn't in the data after having seen Goku's performance against Redjic and Lood.
Captain Cadaver said:Still , but slightly less so maybe .