BoZ Goku w/ Kaio Ken x3 vs. One Saibaman

[Void]

Goku can maintain the Kaio Ken x3 a bit better than he did vs. Vegeta. Who wins?

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I don't think Goku is going to be able to deliver the finishing blow before his stamina drops. The Saibaman wins here.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I have BOZ Goku at 750, so his 3x KK stomps.

 

[freezamite]

BoZ Goku was 430, so that would put him at 1290 of theoretical power. But the KKx3 damaged Goku's body a lot, so even if the scoutter could measure a power greater than the saibamen, I don't think he could win even while the KK is activated.

 

[Keedounan]

I have BOZ Goku at 750, so his 3x KK stomps.

BoZ Goku was 430, so that would put him at 1290 of theoretical power. But the KKx3 damaged Goku's body a lot, so even if the scoutter could measure a power greater than the saibamen, I don't think he could win even while the KK is activated.

You're both wrong:

Chapter: 199 (DBZ 5), P9.5, P10.2
Context: said after Goku removes his weights
Raditz: “Kakarot is 416...!”

Base Goku (BoZ) = 416.
KKx3 Goku (BoZ) = 1248.
Saibaiman = 1200.

Goku's power would be a bit higher than Saibaiman, but hardly enough to give him a solid edge over his opponent. And with his KKx3 inflicting a strain on his body, Goku isn't going to win.

 

[Super Neko Majin Z]

With stamina drain, it could go either way. The fanbase massively overestimates the gap between BoZ Goku and Raditz considering Raditz had slight trouble tanking a Kamehameha.

 

[freezamite]

I have BOZ Goku at 750, so his 3x KK stomps.

BoZ Goku was 430, so that would put him at 1290 of theoretical power. But the KKx3 damaged Goku's body a lot, so even if the scoutter could measure a power greater than the saibamen, I don't think he could win even while the KK is activated.

You're both wrong:

Chapter: 199 (DBZ 5), P9.5, P10.2
Context: said after Goku removes his weights
Raditz: “Kakarot is 416...!”

Base Goku (BoZ) = 416.
KKx3 Goku (BoZ) = 1248.
Saibaiman = 1200.

Goku's power would be a bit higher than Saibaiman, but hardly enough to give him a solid edge over his opponent. And with his KKx3 inflicting a strain on his body, Goku isn't going to win.

Thank's for the correction, with those numbers it's even more clear that Goku wouldn't have a chance to win (if we use the same KKx3 that the used against Vegeta his effective power should be even lower than that).

 

[Flame]

A saibaman has crap durability, Goku wins.

 

[Keedounan]

A saibaman has crap durability, Goku wins.

A saibaiman could survive Yamcha's hits, who is stronger than the Goku of this thread.

 

[Animelover5487]

Seeing as Yamcha with a larger power gap couldn't kill the Saibaman with his Kamehameha then I can't imagine Goku causing any severe enough damage before his stamina tanks, so yeah Saibaman wins.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

I have BOZ Goku at 750, so his 3x KK stomps.

BoZ Goku was 430, so that would put him at 1290 of theoretical power. But the KKx3 damaged Goku's body a lot, so even if the scoutter could measure a power greater than the saibamen, I don't think he could win even while the KK is activated.

You're both wrong:

Chapter: 199 (DBZ 5), P9.5, P10.2
Context: said after Goku removes his weights
Raditz: “Kakarot is 416...!”

Base Goku (BoZ) = 416.
KKx3 Goku (BoZ) = 1248.
Saibaiman = 1200.

Goku's power would be a bit higher than Saibaiman, but hardly enough to give him a solid edge over his opponent. And with his KKx3 inflicting a strain on his body, Goku isn't going to win.

It makes zero sense for BOZ Goku to be 416. Kami was stated to be above BOZ Tenshinhan (250), so he's at least close to 300.
At 23rd TB, Goku was hugely above Kami and, at BOZ, Goku is logically stronger than his 23rd TB self. That's why there is no
way he's only 416. I theorize that was his PL while standing there doing nothing, but he increased it in the actual battle. Think
of it; humans had the same ability at Saiyans saga (Vegeta called the scouter numbers useless), after training with Kami.
BOZ Goku had already trained with Kami, so he should already have that ability. It even fits really well with the things Mr Popo
said to him (stilling your heart, crouching quieter than sky and striking faster than lightning).

 

[freezamite]

I have BOZ Goku at 750, so his 3x KK stomps.

BoZ Goku was 430, so that would put him at 1290 of theoretical power. But the KKx3 damaged Goku's body a lot, so even if the scoutter could measure a power greater than the saibamen, I don't think he could win even while the KK is activated.

You're both wrong:

Chapter: 199 (DBZ 5), P9.5, P10.2
Context: said after Goku removes his weights
Raditz: “Kakarot is 416...!”

Base Goku (BoZ) = 416.
KKx3 Goku (BoZ) = 1248.
Saibaiman = 1200.

Goku's power would be a bit higher than Saibaiman, but hardly enough to give him a solid edge over his opponent. And with his KKx3 inflicting a strain on his body, Goku isn't going to win.

It makes zero sense for BOZ Goku to be 416. Kami was stated to be above BOZ Tenshinhan (250), so he's at least close to 300.
At 23rd TB, Goku was hugely above Kami and, at BOZ, Goku is logically stronger than his 23rd TB self. That's why there is no
way he's only 416. I theorize that was his PL while standing there doing nothing, but he increased it in the actual battle. Think
of it; humans had the same ability at Saiyans saga (Vegeta called the scouter numbers useless), after training with Kami.
BOZ Goku had already trained with Kami, so he should already have that ability. It even fits really well with the things Mr Popo
said to him (stilling your heart, crouching quieter than sky and striking faster than lightning).

I wouldn't use any kind of PL for anything before the saiyan saga, but considering how much of a difference a mere 10-20% in PL meant, it wouldn't surprise me if the PL number given by the scoutter wasn't simply a lineal measure. In other words, 500 is not 5 times as strong as 100 (that would be a lineal measure) but much, much stronger than that.

But since the saiyan saga was the one that introduced this kind of measures I don't think Toriyama took them into account before. In fact, even when the most basic rules were still followed in the first fights of DB, they weren't as cohesive as they became after the introduction of the PL system.

 

[Keedounan]

I have BOZ Goku at 750, so his 3x KK stomps.

BoZ Goku was 430, so that would put him at 1290 of theoretical power. But the KKx3 damaged Goku's body a lot, so even if the scoutter could measure a power greater than the saibamen, I don't think he could win even while the KK is activated.

You're both wrong:

Chapter: 199 (DBZ 5), P9.5, P10.2
Context: said after Goku removes his weights
Raditz: “Kakarot is 416...!”

Base Goku (BoZ) = 416.
KKx3 Goku (BoZ) = 1248.
Saibaiman = 1200.

Goku's power would be a bit higher than Saibaiman, but hardly enough to give him a solid edge over his opponent. And with his KKx3 inflicting a strain on his body, Goku isn't going to win.

It makes zero sense for BOZ Goku to be 416. Kami was stated to be above BOZ Tenshinhan (250), so he's at least close to 300.
At 23rd TB, Goku was hugely above Kami and, at BOZ, Goku is logically stronger than his 23rd TB self. That's why there is no
way he's only 416. I theorize that was his PL while standing there doing nothing, but he increased it in the actual battle. Think
of it; humans had the same ability at Saiyans saga (Vegeta called the scouter numbers useless), after training with Kami.
BOZ Goku had already trained with Kami, so he should already have that ability. It even fits really well with the things Mr Popo
said to him (stilling your heart, crouching quieter than sky and striking faster than lightning).

I wouldn't take what we believe are official rules for the gaps (when AT himself likely didn't thought about it) over a canon information. I mean, Vegeta curb-stomped Dodoria despite the fact that they were respectively at 24,000 and 22,000.

 

[Male]

Goku can win. The saibamen are simply not skilled enough, despute their power advantage. Lol

 

[Big Ank]

Goku Kaioken x3 has a slight power advantage, similar to Raditz's power advantage over them imo. But considering Goku can maintain the Kaioken for just quick bursts and the fact it also drains his power, it wouldn't be enough to take the Saibaimen out imo, seeing as a KMHMH from Yamcha (most likely stronger than this Goku) couldn't do the job.

 

[Zippy]

If the Khh gives him the same boost as it did in the fight against raditz then yeah if he decides to use it i think he can win (assuming he wont just miss lol).

 

[Flame]

A saibaman has crap durability, Goku wins.

A saibaiman could survive Yamcha's hits, who is stronger than the Goku of this thread.

Unless Goku uses his Super Kamehameha.

 

[Keedounan]

A saibaman has crap durability, Goku wins.

A saibaiman could survive Yamcha's hits, who is stronger than the Goku of this thread.

Unless Goku uses his Super Kamehameha.

If Saibaman let him the time to do it.