Cliches In Manga/Anime

[Keedounan]

The jail bait characters, especially if they are intentionally sexualized in the show. Extreme example, one of those two sisters in 9.

The girl on the right is the older sister, btw.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Comedy anime that rely on referential humour, essentially using a pre-existing work to advertise their own.

 

[Kyo]

being an anime

 

[Captain Cadaver]

When attempts are made to avoid going full incest with the "We're not blood related, Onii-chan" angle.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

When attempts are made to avoid going full incest with the "We're not blood related, Onii-chan" angle.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

And then, on the flipside, just promoting full incest, bonus points if the negative aspects of such degeneracy are glossed over (ie. every anime covering the subject other than Koi Kaze).

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

You sure have a plenty of knowledge on those.

When a character analyze the fight that's happening in front of him. It annoys the hell out of me.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

You sure have a plenty of knowledge on those.

It's so prevelant in the medium with shit like Elfen Lied or Oreimo being mainstream to the point it's hard not to if you're fairly well versed in anime/manga.

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A protagonist (usually in a Battle Shonen, but not always) giving a long speech before taking down a main enemy with some full power attack.

 

[Keedounan]

The characters shouting out the names of their attacks. Bonus points if the activations of said attacks don't equire such battle shouts.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

character is presumed dead (if it's a hero every1 is crying)...only they're not actually dead

for examples:

dragonball has this, most recent with goku & jiren & the genki-dama before ultra-instinct

cell & freeza too

& one-piece did also with luffy & crocodile

 

[SSJ2]

HxH sucks.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

every1 knws that tho

except ppl in denial (such as @Pocket-Gog~ ) :9000 :9000 :9000

 

[SSJ2]

I just felt like saying it. It's been a while.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

A new threat being shown and mentioned to be far above all previous foes. Bonus point if the series even utilises a power level system to show it numerically.

 

[Kyo]

being a manga

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Purposery havingu broken Engrish.

 

[Papasmurf]

A new threat being shown and mentioned to be far above all previous foes. Bonus point if the series even utilises a power level system to show it numerically.

 

[sei'taer]

Narrative tropes exist for a reason and there's certainly nothing wrong with using them. Y'all spend way too much time hating on things you don't enjoy.

Trying to subvert tropes for the sake of it gives us things like The Last Jedi.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Narrative tropes exist for a reason and there's certainly nothing wrong with using them. Y'all spend way too much time hating on things you don't enjoy.

There's a difference between using tropes in a way to make an interesting story/character and using them for convenience/lack of creativity, the latter of which becomes far easier to do if lacking the talent and causes many series to fall into the generic category of seeming like more of the same. Tropes can indeed be of use, but it's all about execution and treading the line between the familiar and being a carbon copy.

Moreover, the thread isn't explicitly about tropes we find to be universally problematic (though there are several tropes that can generally weigh down the quality of a work), but about cliches within the medium in general.

Or to summarise, there's a difference between using a cliche and using it well.

Trying to subvert tropes for the sake of it gives us things like The Last Jedi.

Again, it's all down to execution. There are many cases where the "subverted expectations" angle ruins a work, but also many where the ability to mess with narrative conventions improves a work drastically. Something like No Country for Old Men, The Sopranos or (more fitting for this anime discussion) Neon Genesis Evangelion are unarguably better than like The Last Jedi or Game of Thrones Season 8, despite all of them doing something to intentionally mess with narrative conventions.

 

[Keedounan]

The most likeable character dies first. Bonus if they're a relatively cute female character who gets killed in a particularly gruesome fashion.