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Was surprised to see just now that this classic hasn't been posted yet. Anyway, unless you guys want to include manga in this one I'll also make a manga counterpart to this if there's interest.

Criticism

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
- It is often praised as the best that shounen has to offer. It is, unfortunately, still shounen, and while it does often avoid many of the pitfalls of "battle shounen," the key words there are "often" as opposed to "always" and "many" as opposed to "all."
- There is little progression character-wise, and when there is, it is often slight. The characters are more developed in the perspective of the audience than they are in the here and now, à la Jay Gatsby, as we learn more about them over time. Which is fine, but otherwise, they are (largely) static, and this is still somewhat of a longer series even if it didn't overstay its welcome like most other battle shounen.
- Despite the creativity of alchemy in general, Edward's fighting style is very pedestrian and not all that creative. This is a bit of a shame as he is the protagonist and therefore the one we see fight the most often.
- The beginning of the series was rushed, as Bones expected the viewer to have seen FMA 2003 already, where the introductory episodes are essentially the same. This still affects FMA:B as a standalone work.
- The comic relief is often out of place and weak, although there's less of it as the series goes on.
- The final fight was kind of full of PIS. 99 times out of 100 the good guys should've lost.
- There's a little bit of pseudo-philosophical babbling here and there.

Cowboy Bebop
- Some of the episodes, quite frankly, just didn't need to be there. They could've been removed and you wouldn't lose anything in the way of characters, story or thematically, or at worst you'd only lose a little thematically/in the way of motifs. At best they were funny, at worst they were trying to be and just weren't. For example, the fungus monster thing. Or the one with the shrooms.
- The main antagonist, Vicious, despite me liking him, makes me think of wasted potential when I first think of him. His motivations are left somewhat unclear, he invokes the "I'm a badass because I use a katana in the age of guns" cliche, and he's just not very compelling to me. His relationship would Spike is almost the only thing that makes him compelling at all, which is disappointing considering his importance.
- Though I think it has merit, it often gives off a "style over substance" feel to me. I mean, just look at how many homages it makes to western pop culture. There are so many, which is cool, but it makes me wonder how much of Bebop is really just...Bebop. Keep in mind that I didn't get all these references or anything so they don't affect my opinion too much, but that's just one example.

Bakemonogatari
- The quality is inconsistent.
- It's more plot-focused than other entries in the series, but that's just not its strong point. Most prefer Bake to Nise. I prefer Nise because there's more focus on what this series does best: style and presentation.
- I spoke of inconsistent quality before. This is easily most noticeable in the snake arc. Nadeko is by far the least developed character in the show. The arc felt like the least meaningful in general (not that it was totally meaningless). The "fanservice" was also utilized more poorly. This is more Nise's forte, but still. There are other issues, but this is in general the weakest arc by far.
- Kanbaru was a better character than Nadeko, but she was also a little weak. Many of the arcs go "character has problem, problem is resolved, character is back to normal," but that would be an oversimplification. Not so much with Kanbaru compared to the others though. Still love her but yeah.
- The Monogatari series is sometimes lambasted for being a "slideshow." The criticism is, admittedly, sometimes warranted. See, for example, episode 7. It ain't a literal slideshow, mind you, but you can tell that there's something amiss, which is irritating, out-of-universe (i.e. budget) reasons be damned.
- I do often feel compelled to pause those screens full of text that pass by within a second even though I don't need to, which can be annoying.

I might do more later.

Praise

Attack on Titan
- Jean is one of the better developed characters. He is probably the only one who we see being affected by the war in a realistic way, and the only one who feels truly human, the only one who learns in any way. The show would've been far more interesting had he been the protagonist.
- While I do kinda think that the power-up in this series (people becoming Titans) is pretty meh/cliche/predictable, it does at least present an alternative to a "these kids, for some reason, overcome a threat that most adults failed to overcome or even challenge" narrative, which is similarly cliche and shounen-esque as well as harder to execute, whereas at least once you get past the issues with the other route, the end result will be a little more believable (I guess).
- The feeling of terror in the first episode, albeit overdone, was fairly well executed.
- Though I mentioned a power-up, it does appear to be devoid of the "shounen heroes get a new power-up every arc" formula. Despite the existence of some battle shounen tropes it is mostly devoid of that structure in general.
- Though not without issues, art and animation are far superior to the manga, despite the manga's grittier/more sinister tone.

Another
- It does do a decent job of setting up a darker/creepy atmosphere, especially earlier on.
- The unintentional camp. This is always good, intended or not. It makes up for the fact that much of the story felt poorly done. It makes me feel like even if it is, I shouldn't take it all that seriously.
- There is at least some noteworthy foreshadowing to be had. The story clearly wasn't devoid of planning despite the subpar execution (I hear many of the anime's issues are nonexistent in the source material anyway). It isn't as though the 'big reveal' was a random asspull.
- To add to what I said about the atmosphere, Mei's presence is certainly a somewhat intriguing/mysterious one in the earlier episodes.

Btooom!
- There were sometimes some good strategies used by the main characters in battle, despite the death game's limitation in terms of variety and creativity.
- It, unlike many other anime that involve games, harbors little to no delusions about the nature of otaku/obsessive gamers in the beginning. It's a bad thing. It's unhealthy.
- It does at least touch on the moral dilemma of killing other people to begin with, even if it ultimately isn't handled that well.
- Some of the <del>cardboard cutouts</del> side characters do an okayish job of presenting various psychological issues (or just issues in general) associated with being thrown into a death game like this (aside from "killing is bad" like I mentioned before). Trust and deceit (Taira and Murasaki), mental trauma (Taira), as well as acceptance of the situation turning one into a stone cold killer (Nobutaka).

Might do more of these later as well.

I think I maybe went overboard but oh well. So how about you guys?
 

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Criticisms -

One Piece -
- <big>THIS</big> is often praised as the best Shonen has to offer. It is still Shonen, and a battle shonen at that. It doesn't try as hard to be a Battle Shonen as Naruto and Bleach, but I feel Oda has been pressured to make stuff like Gear 4th (despite it being somewhat necessary to defeat Doflamingo), as well as Haki to appease to the philistines.
- Dressrosa sucks.

Toriko -
- The Arcs can be too short.
- Food Luck is too haxxed.

Fullmetal Alchemist -
- Father is a dumb ass.
- The War Arc isn't as good as the events before it, and that's not just because it doesn't have a sense of mystery.

Kingdom -
- Follows too many Shonen Troupes for a Seinen.

Berserk -
- Everything Volume 24 and afterwards sucks.

Slam Dunk -
- The story doesn't have enough backstories.
- The haxxes can be too much at times.

Vagabond -
- Musashi doesn't have a proper backstory.

I'll think of praises in the next post I make.
 

Kyo

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Big Green The Yoshi said:
One Piece -
- <big>THIS</big> is often praised as the best Shonen has to offer.
Chill, that wasn't a knock on OP. It's just true (as is this statement).

Edit: Haki was foreshadowed in chapter 1 btw lol
 

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Like:

Robin Williams (for amusing manner of death)

Dislike:

Donald Trump

hes a faggot
 

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- Lesbians can be hot at times.

Dislike:

- Camaros are a little too small. If I have my hair spiked up, it hits the roof and I hate that.
 

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Big Green The Yoshi said:
Vagabond -
- Musashi doesn't have a proper backstory.
This part is somewhat understandable, as there's little known about Musashi's early life beyond what was shown within it prior to the Battle of Sekigahara.

Criticisms

Hokuto no Ken

- Everything after the timeskip gets worse and worse until the end via retcons and contradictions.

Kinnikuman

- The art for the first several volumes was low standard by any tier.
- The plot does revolve around somewhat repetitive themes until it's sequel series, with deus ex machina being plentiful, especially in the last arc.
- Most of the main cast of Kinnikuman Nisei become Yamcha tier fodder after the first arc of the sequel.

Toriko

- The hax the Four Kings got after eating the Four Beast was pretty insane, considering that Cooking Fest Zebra >> Red Nitro > Yuda > Four Beast >>>>Four Beast Arc Zebra
- Mansam being even slightly injured by a low tier GT Robo in the Regal Mammoth Arc is as nonsensical as Goku getting pwned by Sorbet's beam.

One Piece

- Luffy beating Crocodile and Enel was pure PIS.
- The timeskip, whilst underrated, did indeed drop in quality for the most part.

Sakigake!! Otokojuku

- The main cast seemed to get inexplicitly haxed throughout each battle in the Tencho Gorin Daibukai.
- Some of the Ancient Chinese Kung-Fu branches tended to be too ridiculous and stupid to be in any way a martial art.

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

- Araki's plot quality can deviate at times, specifically parts 1, 3 and 5.
- Part 4's art style changing altogether part way through it was pure WTF. Despite this part also being praised as tying with parts 6 and 7 in writing quality, it had one of the most glaring plot holes in Joseph not using Hermit Purple to find Kira.

Saint Seiya

- The plot can be very repetitive at times, with a lot of deus ex machina to boot.
- The canon sequel, Next Dimension, has a HxH tier series of hiatuses.

City Hunter

- As expected for an episodic series, most of the arcs follow the same plot of a woman seeking help from Ryo and eventually falling for him. The anime, whilst being one of the few series to have good filler, seems to fall short when not just cutting out the more risqué sex gags, but also never adapting parts such as Ryo's backstory, despite Sunrise having enough time to adapt a Gaiden of the series into a movie.

Ashita no Joe

- Whilst one of the best written series out there, it didn't really get good until after the Prison Arc.

Jungle King Tar-Chan

- The series relied too heavily on resolve power ups, even in it's better written arcs.

Praises

Bleach

- It's art is passible when Kubo puts shading or textures in.
- Despite the majority of the cast being bland or downright terrible, Kurotsuchi is an entertaining and interesting character, along with perhaps Kenpachi.

Naruto

- Part 1 was fairly good.
- It had a lot of cool and fairly well written characters despite it's backlash in that area for most of the cast, with Jiraiya being one of the examples of good cast members.

Shingeki no Kyojin

-It's setting's fairly original for a modern Shonen.

Corpse Party

- The twist at the end was okay.

Highschool of the Dead

- Fanservice

Pokémon Anime

- The first 2 series weren't too bad, plus the Advanced series had somewhat fair character development for a show with a notoriously bad writing as this. The Origins spinoff was fairly good, despite it being ridiculously rushed.
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Will add more later.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

- Araki's plot quality can deviate at times, specifically parts 1, 3 and 5.
- Part 4's art style changing altogether part way through it was pure WTF. Despite this part also being praised as tying with parts 6 and 7 in writing quality, it had one of the most glaring plot holes in Joseph not using Hermit Purple to find Kira.
Dat Alzheimer's is a bitch :D
 

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I thought you were talking about Nadeko Medusa arc for a second but then I remembered her first arc. Yeah I agree with you there that that one was pretty weak and Nadeko wasn't really that interesting of a character there. Nadeko Medusa however, is a great arc I think.

Criticize:
Angel Beats
- Too short. Angel Beats had a great premise and a bunch of really good characters but there wasn't nearly enough time to explore them more. Being only 13 episodes long, they had to rush through and focus on the main characters, which was fine and the show was great, but if it could have been 25 or 26 episodes long it would have been much better. I wanted to know what had happened to others that were part of the SSS and what led them to being regretful about their lives and how they played out.

Fate/stay night UBW
- This will have spoilers for this show so if you don't want to be spoiled, don't read it. But anyway, the ending pissed me off to no end. In fact, the show started to slip once Caster died, imo. But when we have stupid ass Emiya Shirou going up against fuckin Gilgamesh and he wins? And the huge ass pull of having Archer come back unexplained. What a mess that was.

Praise:
Shingeki no Kyojin
- Some good characters. Levi was a great character and I really liked Hanji too. Jean was also good but I hated him at first.
- Good concept. I like the concept the series has and the humans turning into titans is also an interesting concept. Its almost like a biological mecha series lol.

Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic
- I'm always a fan of open world adventure style series like this one. The characters were all pretty interesting, as well as the lore that I saw with the episodes I watched.
- The art was nice
 

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<big><big><big><big>Criticism:</big></big></big></big><big>Gundam 00</big><hr />
  • Somewhat convoluted. Over explains things quite a bit. And then it'll just not explain something else that it should have.
  • As one of the earliest Gundam shows, taking place in the 24th century, some of the technology seems far ahead of other Gundam shows. I get that they don't all interconnect, but it's a bit jarring.
  • It has a problem with focus. It cuts to people that have nothing important to add to the episode, and it does it a lot.

<big><big><big><big>Praise:</big></big></big></big><big>Attack on Titan</big><hr />
  • The setting was great.
  • The whole titan thing was pretty neat and original. Even if it turned into biological Gundam.
  • Early on the characters weren't that terrible.
  • Music was amazing. One of the only anime soundtracks I listen to the entirety of.
  • Mikasa is still waifu material.
 

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Criticism

Corpse Party - Damn good gaming series, damn good VAing but some of the games rather than being games are just visual novels that I sometimes fall on asleep on while playing.

Dragonball - My favorite anime, but the anime itself has so much filler that's annoying and that it makes me appreciate Kai even more.

Mortal Kombat - I haven't played all of the games, some of them are fun but I don't understand the storyline at all, some games people die than they're alive the next with no explanation for it.

Naruto - One of the best anime/mangas out there but the anime itself is like 30% flashbacks and when you're impatient and want action that's annoying.

Praise

Corpse Party: Torture Porn I mean Tortured Souls - Despite butchering a game that told a depressing yet interesting story turning into a 2 hour long mess that was incredibly rushed that could pass as Saw 8 it was beautifully animated.


The Last Airbender - With more problems than there are sperm in my body it had pretty cool effects and they at least got the premise of the first season right.

Sushi - It looks good but taste awful!!
 

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Criticism:

Hellsing is really nothing more than just glorified action with little story and plot. Plot that by the last volumes gets so out of hand that it often doesn't make sense. Walter's betrayal is a joke and frankly, as far as the OVAs go, I thought 8-10 were far inferior to the both the earlier OVAs and the mangas themselves.

Praise:

Fullmetal Alchemist 2003 was quite frankly far superior to the manga/Brotherhood in terms of character and storytelling and mainly fell flat when it came to its conclusion.

I can't really say I dislike FMA 2003 though but...my point still stands.
 

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