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[GSM123]

BoGs

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJ2: 3.75
~ SSJ3: 7.5
~ SSJG: 150

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJ2: 3.75
~ Mutated SSJ2: 37.5

Gotenks: 15
~ SSJ: 37.5
~ SSJ3: 112.5

Gohan: 135
~ Rusty: 13.5

FnF

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJB: 187.5

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJB: 187.5

Freeza: 2
~ Golden Form: 225

U6

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJG: 150
~ SSJB: 187.5

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJB: 187.5
~ SSJB (Tired): 3.75

Piccolo: 1.2

Mr Boo: 7

Hit: 2.4
~ Full Power: 150

Cabba: 1
~ SSJ: 2

Frost: 0.6
~ Assault Form: 0.8
~ True Form: 1.8

Magetta: 1.5

Botamo: 0.2

GOKU BLACK

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJ2: 3.75
~ SSJ3: 7.5
~ SSJG: 150
~ SSJB: 187.5
~ PSSJB: 225

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ2: 37.5
~ SSJB: 187.5
~ SSJG: 150
~ SSJB (Bursts): 225

Trunks: 1.92
~ SSJ: 4.8
~ SSJ2: 7.2

Zamasu: 5
~ Goku's body: 12
~ SSJ: 30
~ SSJ (Zenkai): 150
~ SSJ Rosé: 187.5
~ Merged: 225

Vegetto: 300
~ SSJB: 3,750

TOP

Goku: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJ2: 3.75
~ SSJ3: 7.5
~ SSJB: 225
~ SSJB (Power stressed): 450
~ UI Omen: 600
~ Full Power: 750

Vegeta: 1
~ SSJ: 2.5
~ SSJB: 225
~ SSJB2: 450

Freeza: 2
~ Golden Form: 225

#17: 7.5

Gohan: 135

Hit: 225

Caulifla: 1.2
~ SSJ: 2.4

Kale: 3
~ LSSJ: 135

Kefla: 135

Dyspo: 7.5

Toppo: 225

Jiren: 300
~ Power up 1: 450
~ Power up 2: 600
~ Full Power: 720

 

[Pyro]

So you're one to think Gohan is weaker than Goku in the ToP?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Wait, Ultimate Gohan from Boo arc is barely stronger than SSG Goku from BoG?

 

[GSM123]

Wait, Ultimate Gohan from Boo arc is barely stronger than SSG Goku from BoG?

Yes.

So you're one to think Gohan is weaker than Goku in the ToP?

Well yeah. I also tried taking a minimalistic approach with keeping the God tiers close to Z, but it didn’t work out well. I mean PSSJB is weaker than Gohan-Boo ffs.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Wait, Ultimate Gohan from Boo arc is barely stronger than SSG Goku from BoG?

Yes.

So you're one to think Gohan is weaker than Goku in the ToP?

Well yeah. I also tried taking a minimalistic approach with keeping the God tiers close to Z, but it didn’t work out well. I mean PSSJB is weaker than Gohan-Boo ffs.

 

[Pyro]

Do you then ignore Piccolo's statement that Gohan did indeed get stronger than ever during the fight with Kefla? Because you have him the same strength as his peak in BoG during the ToP.

 

[GSM123]

Do you then ignore Piccolo's statement that Gohan did indeed get stronger than ever during the fight with Kefla? Because you have him the same strength as his peak in BoG during the ToP.

I actually forgot about it

Thought Piccolo just said he regained his fighting senses and got stronger, not that he had gotten stronger than ever… There goes my attempt to rationalize the power bloat.

 

[Pyro]

Ch. 39, pg. 7.1-2
Piccolo: “That’s Gohan for you. Regaining his sense of battle was all he could do in that brief period of training, but he’s managed to grow stronger than ever during this fight.”

Yeah, he actually separates their training from the fight at hand, so it's time to ramp up that power and give him credit where it's due!

 

[GSM123]

[mention]Pyro[/mention] what about Old Kaioshin’s ritual though? Shouldn’t that have been his absolute peak?

 

[SSJ2]

That was beyond his peak at that exact time.

 

[GSM123]

I have considered that as well, but it doesn’t seem to be the case. Gohan looks more mature after the ritual, as if Kaioshin didn’t just unlock his current power but also aged him to his ultimate peak.

I mean I’m not against him getting stronger, but there should’ve been a logical explanation. Same with Vegeta’s tantrum after Beerus slapped Bulma. At least the Black Saga and the ToP threw some half assed transformations to explain it…

 

[SSJ2]

Lol logical explanation when 6 saiyans holding hands gives you the powers of the gods. There is no logic in Super.

 

[Pyro]

@Pyro what about Old Kaioshin’s ritual though? Shouldn’t that have been his absolute peak?

He was pushed beyond his limits in that ritual, but Vegeta was also pushed beyond his limits by Babidi and continued getting stronger on his own.

 

[GSM123]

@Pyro what about Old Kaioshin’s ritual though? Shouldn’t that have been his absolute peak?

He was pushed beyond his limits in that ritual, but Vegeta was also pushed beyond his limits by Babidi and continued getting stronger on his own.

You haven’t realized that Base/SSJ Vegeta stays the same throughout this list, have you?

Lol logical explanation when 6 saiyans holding hands gives you the powers of the gods. There is no logic in Super.

At least they had to so something for Goku to power up

 

[SSJ2]

But Gohan trained. How is that not something? And Saiyans are said to grow stronger in battle idk how many times, but it's still something.

 

[Pyro]

@Pyro what about Old Kaioshin’s ritual though? Shouldn’t that have been his absolute peak?

He was pushed beyond his limits in that ritual, but Vegeta was also pushed beyond his limits by Babidi and continued getting stronger on his own.

You haven’t realized that Base/SSJ Vegeta stays the same throughout this list, have you?

Lol logical explanation when 6 saiyans holding hands gives you the powers of the gods. There is no logic in Super.

At least they had to so something for Goku to power up

That's what happens when you're accustomed to not seeing stupidity from someone, ya dig.

 

[GSM123]

Well in times of SSJ2 Vegeta surpassing Gohan with a rage boost or SSJ3 Goku rivaling Gohan-Boo (Or was it Gohan?) I suppose it’s futile to inject the same logic from DBZ. Guess I oughta change this list as well because SSJG being barely above Gotenks to be kinda embarassing…

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Why is merged Zamasu so low? He was no-selling Gokus and Vegeta's attacks like nothing. He was even redirecting gokus attacks with nothing but hand signs. And that was before his power up