Strength doesn't really relate to power level all that closely.I'm talking about in the state where he destroyed the moon and physicals usually scale 1/3 to it. So
What do you mean? In Dragon Ball their punch is usually 1/3 as powerful as their max power Ki blast. What Goku was doing is lifting strength and it was 8 ton total in the sky.Strength doesn't really relate to power level all that closely.
Base Goku is only 100 ton strength at best in the Buu Saga when his power is absurd.
So Buff Roshi is definitely nothing compared to that.
How did you come to that conclusion?What do you mean? In Dragon Ball their punch is usually 1/3 as powerful as their max power Ki blast.
You agreed with such cases such as Raditz blocking Goku's Kamehameha with his bare hand. And we know that because we have stated power level's such as:How did you come to that conclusion?
I agreed to what? I'm not sure you aware of my full stance on Raditz power.You agreed with such cases such as Raditz blocking Goku's Kamehameha with his bare hand. And we know that because we have stated power level's such as:
BoZ numbers are trash and shouldn't be used as evidence too much, Toriyama has no consistency with his numbers and narrative. Let's stick to narrative more.BoZ Goku own PL is 416 and his Kamehameha is over 924. Meaning Goku's punch is only around 2x weaker than his moon+ level Kamehameha
Sure if Nappa's arm extended through the entire moon of course. But hands don't work like ki blasts. A ki blasts is a really volatile punch with super long arms and it's hot lolAnd Nappa punches it away. Meaning Nappa's punch>moon obliterating power
SSJ3 Goku was unable to blow up Kaio's planet.Or Frieza blocking Goku's Kamehameha with his bare hand. Which shows star level strength
There are many such examples.
In another thread, you said you agreed with me stating that Raditz has moon+ level punches.I agreed to what? I'm not sure you aware of my full stance on Raditz power.
BoZ numbers are trash and shouldn't be used as evidence too much, Toriyama has no consistency with his numbers and narrative. Let's stick to narrative more.
Sure if Nappa's arm extended through the entire moon of course. But hands don't work like ki blasts. A ki blasts is a really volatile punch with super long arms and it's hot lol
SSJ3 Goku was unable to blow up Kaio's planet.
Because you aren't understanding my point. Raditz can easily punch back a moon busting ki blast, but his punch isn't busting the moon. Imagine a ki blast that detonated on the surface, it wouldn't do much.In another thread, you said you agreed with me stating that Raditz has moon+ level punches.
So I don't understand why you disagree suddenly
Nearly every power level has major consistency issues. The further you look into these issues, the worse they get.How are they trash? There are only few inconsistenties such as Vegeta vs Dodoria or Recoome. Also what is than according to the narrative that you interpretate as?
Exactly.Nappa can't destroy the moon with a punch but he still hits to the equalevent of that as shown by his.
So we so agree. DB characters since Raditz have moon obliterating force behind their punches.Because you aren't understanding my point. Raditz can easily punch back a moon busting ki blast, but his punch isn't busting the moon. Imagine a ki blast that detonated on the surface, it wouldn't do much.
Nearly every power level has major consistency issues. The further you look into these issues, the worse they get.
Are you aware of the King Piccolo debacle power level wise?
Exactly.
Way before that brother. Max Power Roshi blew up the moon. Tien and Goku from the 22nd Budokai should be able to at least match that level of power at minimum I’d say.So we so agree. DB characters since Raditz have moon obliterating force behind their punches.
Way before that brother. Max Power Roshi blew up the moon. Tien and Goku from the 22nd Budokai should be able to at least match that level of power at minimum I’d say.
So even fodders such as Drum have moon level strike power?Way before that brother. Max Power Roshi blew up the moon. Tien and Goku from the 22nd Budokai should be able to at least match that level of power at minimum I’d say.
Drum is no fodder. He easily smashed Tien, one of the most powerful people in DB.So even fodders such as Drum have moon level strike power?