Don't get no better than this...

[p123]

Kamiccolo (w/o Weights) 400
Android 17 400
Android 18 350
Kamiccolo (W/ Weights) 340
Imperfect Cell 300
Super Saiyan Vegeta 250
Super Saiyan Goku 240
Super Saiyan Trunks 225
Piccolo 200
Android 20 (Post Absorption) 170
Super Saiyan Goku (Sick) 160
Android 19 (Post Absorption) 150
Android 20 135
Super Saiyan Goku (Post KHH) 130
Android 19 120

 

[ahill1]

Looking good.

I'd like to have Trunks a bit further away from Vegeta, like 85%~87%.

Android 20 post doesn't necessarily have to be > Super Saiyajin sick, maybe = could work better, letting him still at 80% of Piccolo.

Weighted Kamiccolo's advantage over Imperfect Cell looks kind small, considering Piccolo still looked at Imperfect Cell as an inferior aftet an energy transfer, and it doesn't look like Piccolo should take off his weights.

 

[p123]

1) I rather have Trunks tighter to Vegeta and keep the grouping of the Saiyans together and Piccolo out a little bit shown more. Vegeta talks out of his ass a whole lot during this portion, we shouldn't let his overconfidence sway us too much. I think this is hitting the sweet spot.

2) You could be right, but I'd like to give 20 some spacing about 19. 20 may be superior to 80% of Piccolo though, he's able to recover pretty quickly even though taken for a ride. We would have to compare his fight with Piccolo to Goku's fight with 19 I'm sure. It's clear there is a wide difference from what I saw. 165 would work as well if needed.

3) Bumping Piccolo up to 350 would probably solve that. Vegeta does group them together though, I don't think the gap between the two is all that wide in terms of what we see fighting wise. Unless you think Piccolo powers up further when raging out at his lost opportunity. That could very well be the case.

 

[ahill1]

I find it hard to have weighted Piccolo > post arm absorption Piccolo > Cell [post arm] > Cell going with a gap less than 1.2x, but going with Piccolo powering up even more once Cell run away, then it makes sense.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Those levels are perfect.

 

[Pyro]

A year ago these gaps would've been laughed out of existence.

 

[Kyo]

I'd prolly bump up 18 and weighted pic a tad, considering 17-pic is the same as pic-20 rn

 

[Cell]

I'd hardly consider 340 - 400 as "rivaling".

 

[ahill1]

Agreed, maybe weighted Kamiccolo at 360 would look better.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

And all of them were weaker than 50% Freeza. :molest :rape

 

[phill1123]

Surely a god can do better. Its only logical.

 

[freezamite]

And all of them were weaker than 50% Freeza. :molest :rape

Yes, even going by the numbers on that list. If SSJ Trunks is 225, and he had the same strength as SSJ Namek Goku (25% the strength of Freezer), then 50% Freezer would be at 450. Learn your maths :molest

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

 

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Kamiccolo (w/o Weights) 400
Android 17 400
Android 18 350
Kamiccolo (W/ Weights) 340
Imperfect Cell 300
Super Saiyan Vegeta 250
Super Saiyan Goku 240
Super Saiyan Trunks 225
Piccolo 200
Android 20 (Post Absorption) 170
Super Saiyan Goku (Sick) 160
Android 19 (Post Absorption) 150
Android 20 135
Super Saiyan Goku (Post KHH) 130
Android 19 120

1. Weighted Kamiccolo was stated to rival both Androids. I don't think 340 rivals 400.
2. Too small gap between Nineteen and Sick Goku, who stopped the foe's whole body
launched like a homing missile, using his one arm only.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

iMP cell is too close to kamiccolo (with weights).Even after cell absorbed his arm it was implied he couldn't beat piccolo