Dragonball Only Levels (No Z!)

[p123]

I'm just going based off of the feats. Battle Level does some dirty shit to Tien. That's a 1.5x gap if I ever saw one. He's manhandling Tien and Tien is making all sorts of weird faces and being violently beaten back. Tell me the fight doesn't resemble Goku vs Tambourine. Tien is getting completely shit fucked. Or am I seeing this wrong?

I don't know why Kami would be any less relevant? He's proven himself to be on a Jeice/Ginyu vs Goku kind of level. Kami can help Goku win, hence why Goku did a do-over and took Piccolo's punch head on. The rest of the cast can't do shit, but Kami can still help. Goku just won't let him.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Nobody ever mentions Chaozu again btw, so he's utter fodder.

 

[p123]

Agreed. He's shit. How strong in the Saiyan Saga though? Does he match the Saibaman? He catches up at least...


Tien 500
Krillen 375
Yamcha 350
Cyborg Tao 325
Chichi 275
Yajirobe 250
Chaozu 150

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

He's probably weaker. Saibamen is still rivaling Yamcha. Yamcha is definitely closer to Tenshinhan than to Chaozu.

Goku even thinks Yajirobe can help against Androids but agrees with Tenshinhan that it's too dangerous to take Chaozu to the battlefield... Post Kaio Chaozu may still be < Yajirobe. Though CC once made a good point about Yajirobe having never died and could be revived, whereas Chaozu died twice.

 

[p123]

So Chaozu's suicide attack is just ridiculously more powerful than the Saibaman's?

Chaozu at 1,000 and Yajirobe at 800 sound good? Or no?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I'd swap them. I like to think even being a lazy ass Yajrobe still improved a ton. Chaozu is somewhere between 500 and 800. Perhaps 600-750.

 

[p123]

Just how powerful is Chaozu's suicide attack then? You are going to end up making it stronger than Final Explosion at the rate you are going.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I have SSJ3 a 10x boost, so no way in hell Chaozu's Kamikaze is getting close to Final Explosion. Chaozu's Kamikaze is about 3-4x IMO.

 

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1. I'm just going based off of the feats. Battle Level does some dirty shit to Tien. That's a 1.5x gap if I ever saw one. He's manhandling Tien and Tien is making all sorts of weird faces and being violently beaten back. Tell me the fight doesn't resemble Goku vs Tambourine. Tien is getting completely shit fucked. Or am I seeing this wrong?

2. I don't know why Kami would be any less relevant? He's proven himself to be on a Jeice/Ginyu vs Goku kind of level. Kami can help Goku win, hence why Goku did a do-over and took Piccolo's punch head on. The rest of the cast can't do shit, but Kami can still help. Goku just won't let him.

1. I told you Goku just earned a few free hits because Tien did not expect that Goku could really further increase his power,
so he was caught by surprise.

2. Piccolo was out of breath, regenerated a limb, performed his ultimate attack, which cost him so much energy that Goku was surprised he had any ki left, then got further beating, yet Kami was still a pushover. This is more than 2x a gap.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Kami was a pushover to fight on his own though.