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[MikaelHarding]

Why isn’t FPSSJ Goku double of 50% MSSJ Goku in the Cell Games? Pretty sure 50% is half of 100%.

Same with Kaio-Ken. Pretty sure it’s supposed to multiply Goku’s power by the number he calls, like this:

Goku: 8,001
~ Kaio-Ken x2: 16,002
~ Kaio-Ken x3: 24,003
~ Kaio-Ken x4: 32,004

cell power level was 900,000,000 in his perfect form goku 50% 840,000,000 some times power levels can be inaccurate
Goku: 9,200
(Kaiokenx1): 11,500
(Kaiokenx2): 15,900
(Kaiokenx3): 24,600
(Kaiokenx4): 35,000

 

[SIAD]

Why isn’t FPSSJ Goku double of 50% MSSJ Goku in the Cell Games? Pretty sure 50% is half of 100%.

Same with Kaio-Ken. Pretty sure it’s supposed to multiply Goku’s power by the number he calls, like this:

Goku: 8,001
~ Kaio-Ken x2: 16,002
~ Kaio-Ken x3: 24,003
~ Kaio-Ken x4: 32,004

Exact.

 

[SIAD]

I like such a detailed list and not afraid to inflate the numbers, although there are some very notorious errors. Why do you have Piccolo (Post Kaio) at a level close to Frieza Second Form Suppressed? Did that same Piccolo know that he didn't stand a chance against Freeza First Form?

Do you have Goku SSJ3 (BoG)> 10x Vegetto SSJ (Boo)?

 

[MikaelHarding]

I like such a detailed list and not afraid to inflate the numbers, although there are some very notorious errors. Why do you have Piccolo (Post Kaio) at a level close to Frieza Second Form Suppressed? Did that same Piccolo know that he didn't stand a chance against Freeza First Form?

Do you have Goku SSJ3 (BoG)> 10x Vegetto SSJ (Boo)?

well before he fused with nail i'd say he was more than a match for 1st form frieza

well goku has been training since then so I'd say yeah

 

[MikaelHarding]

Exact.

thats the DBZ version I'm was doing the Kai version like for example instead of goku power being over 8000 its over 9000 in dbzkai

 

[SSJ2]

Nail literally says that Freeza would kill Piccolo.

Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

cell power level was 900,000,000 in his perfect form goku 50% 840,000,000 some times power levels can be inaccurate
Goku: 9,200
(Kaiokenx1): 11,500
(Kaiokenx2): 15,900
(Kaiokenx3): 24,600
(Kaiokenx4): 35,000

Power levels may be inconsistent, but the math isn't. We have power levels both in the anime and the Daizenshuu showin the Kaio-Ken is a linear multiplier.

There are no official power levels after the Freeza Saga, that 900 million figure for Cell you got is fan made. Personally I think Imperfect Cell and Android 16 should be in the 900 million mark, and Perfect Cell is some 30 billion or so. According to Daizenshuu 7 you need a 2x power advantage to cancel someone's attacks, so you should apply a 2x boost everytime someone tanks an attack.

Android 17/Piccolo (Fused): 360

Imperfect Cell/Android 16: 720

Semi Perfect Cell: 1,440
~ Full power: 1,800

SSJ Vegeta (Post Rosat): 1,500 (16 and Trunks suggested Vegeta and Cell were pretty close)
~ Grade 2: 2,250

Perfect Cell: 3,600

SSJ Trunks (Post Rosat): 1,440
~ Grade 2: 2,160
~ Grade 3: 4,320

MSSJ Goku (50%): 4,500 or so
~ FPSSJ: 9,000

 

[MikaelHarding]

Nail literally says that Freeza would kill Piccolo.

Chapter: 295 (DBZ 101), P1.4, P2.1-5, P3.1
Nail: “I-I’m astonished…I don’t know what kind of training you’ve done, but you’ve acquired unbelievable power…Still, it’s unfortunate…If you had only returned to the original, single Namekian you were, you might have been able to defeat even Freeza…”
Piccolo: “Are you saying that if I merged with God once again, my power would even surpass Freeza!?”
Nail: “Th-that’s right…I was overwhelmingly defeated by Freeza, but I should have a good comprehension of his abilities…[ ] So merge with me…! I’m also the only fighting-type Namekian on this planet…[ ] That’s right…Your power will become many times greater…”
Piccolo: “…You’re not lying, are you?”
Nail: “If you think so, you can just go get killed by Freeza…”

technically piccolo's power was already in the hundred thousands nail just simply pushed that power over a million

 

[MikaelHarding]

Power levels may be inconsistent, but the math isn't. We have power levels both in the anime and the Daizenshuu showin the Kaio-Ken is a linear multiplier.

There are no official power levels after the Freeza Saga, that 900 million figure for Cell you got is fan made. Personally I think Imperfect Cell and Android 16 should be in the 900 million mark, and Perfect Cell is some 30 billion or so. According to Daizenshuu 7 you need a 2x power advantage to cancel someone's attacks, so you should apply a 2x boost everytime someone tanks an attack.

Android 17/Piccolo (Fused): 360

Imperfect Cell/Android 16: 720

Semi Perfect Cell: 1,440
~ Full power: 1,800

SSJ Vegeta (Post Rosat): 1,500 (16 and Trunks suggested Vegeta and Cell were pretty close)
~ Grade 2: 2,250

Perfect Cell: 3,600

SSJ Trunks (Post Rosat): 1,440
~ Grade 2: 2,160
~ Grade 3: 4,320

MSSJ Goku (50%): 4,500 or so
~ FPSSJ: 9,000

okay your right about no offical power levels after the freiza saga honestly I'm just making a rough estimate 900 million for 16 and imperfect doesn't sound good either

 

[SIAD]

I still don't understand why you have Piccolo (Weighted / Post Kaio) with 800,000.

If Piccolo had been that strong, he would have contradicted Nail when he told him that Freeza would kill him.

 

[MikaelHarding]

I still don't understand why you have Piccolo (Weighted / Post Kaio) with 800,000.

If Piccolo had been that strong, he would have contradicted Nail when he told him that Freeza would kill him.

because frieza was transforming to his second form both piccolo and nail sensed him doing so when they talked so even without the weights I roughly estimated his power to be close to one million because nail had helped risen piccolo's power pass it remember its just a rough estimation and yeah it could be wrong

 

[SIAD]

because frieza was transforming to his second form both piccolo and nail sensed him doing so when they talked so even without the weights I roughly estimated his power to be close to one million because nail had helped risen piccolo's power pass it remember its just a rough estimation and yeah it could be wrong

When Nail and Piccolo spoke, Freeza was drawing his true power in his First Form.

 

[MikaelHarding]

When Nail and Piccolo spoke, Freeza was drawing his true power in his First Form.

yes 530,000 is his first form full power what's the point

 

[SIAD]

yes 530,000 is his first form full power what's the point

It means Piccolo (Unweighted / Post Kaio) has a power lower than 530,000.

 

[MikaelHarding]

It means Piccolo (Unweighted / Post Kaio) has a power lower than 530,000.

maybe

 

[MikaelHarding]

what should I change about the first part of my power levels saiyan saga?????

 

[SSJ2]

Goku's Kaioken numbers are off. Kaioken and Kaioken x2 are both the same thing, they double power.

 

[MikaelHarding]

Goku's Kaioken numbers are off. Kaioken and Kaioken x2 are both the same thing, they double power.

like for example how much is kaioken x1

 

[SSJ2]

If his Base power is 8,000, Kaioken x1 is 16,000.

 

[MikaelHarding]

If his Base power is 8,000, Kaioken x1 is 16,000.

thats impossible because kaioken x2 is 16,400 you know 8,200 + 8,200 = 16,400
Then what is kaioken x1??????
if Kaioken x3 is 8,200 + 8,200 + 8,200 = 24,600