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after resurrection of f yeah plus training with whis and those three years of training in the hyperbolic time chamber before the tournament what did you expect
It seems to be the opposite considering base Goku did better than SSJB Vegeta
 

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all this proves is that vegeta was caught off guard by hit time skip if he figured it out like goku then he could won and why did goku need to go SSB after figuring out hit time skip conclusion he couldn't win without it and thus he knew he couldn't beat hit despite being in his base form
 
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all this proves is that vegeta was caught off guard by hit time skip if he figured it out like goku then he could won and why did goku need to go SSB after figuring out hit time skip conclusion he couldn't win without it and thus he knew he couldn't beat hit despite being in his base form
...Vegeta was caught so off guard that he wasn't able to hold his own despite being in the ring for a period of time and got pushed around like a rag doll. Meanwhile Goku was able to catch and perform significantly better than SSJB Vegeta did.

This isn't a "he was caught off guard moment." base Goku just flat out did better than SSJB Vegeta. You are right however, my statement that base Goku was literally equal to Hit is wrong. But SSJB is not this strong in this arc,
 

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...Vegeta was caught so off guard that he wasn't able to hold his own despite being in the ring for a period of time and got pushed around like a rag doll. Meanwhile Goku was able to catch and perform significantly better than SSJB Vegeta did.

This isn't a "he was caught off guard moment." base Goku just flat out did better than SSJB Vegeta. You are right however, my statement that base Goku was literally equal to Hit is wrong. But SSJB is not this strong in this arc,
well how strong do you think SSB was
 

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...Vegeta was caught so off guard that he wasn't able to hold his own despite being in the ring for a period of time and got pushed around like a rag doll. Meanwhile Goku was able to catch and perform significantly better than SSJB Vegeta did.

This isn't a "he was caught off guard moment." base Goku just flat out did better than SSJB Vegeta. You are right however, my statement that base Goku was literally equal to Hit is wrong. But SSJB is not this strong in this arc,

Hit was just going along with Goku’s game to see how he would manage though.
 
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