Finger-flick feat

[ahill]

Brother, you could never finger flick a toddler half way across the room. We just are not 10x other human beings.

I could beat your ass in 1 minute tho

 

[Power Level Guy]

I could beat your ass in 1 minute tho

If you had superior skills surely. People don't realize all of humanity falls within the 1-7.5 range on the power scale.

Finger Flick is like a 10x feat, so we simply don't have people capable of it really.

Perhaps a giant like Brian Shaw can finger flick a literal baby who can stand and send them flying a bit. But even that's pushing it. Finger Flick is a goated feat.

 

[Dagon]

And yeah, not sure if you remember but 1.5x for wind chop was a thing I was all for. Don't blame me. Blame AT. That failed wind chop bloated the hell out of the numbers. It's not my fault for being consistent here.

So can you explain this bloat from Wind Chop? I've been out of the loop.

 

[Power Level Guy]

So can you explain this bloat from Wind Chop? I've been out of the loop.

So basically we conclude this...

Since Shenron can't force King Piccolo to use any more of his power against his will then he wants, we should conclude that the "Less than Half" level Old Piccolo Daimao was at is the same percentage Young PD is at as well.

So basically we've concluded this...

Piccolo 40
Goku 45
FP Piccolo 100

So despite having a 2.25x advantage over Goku, he still was unable to send him flying with his wind chop attempt.

So there...

(Jackie Wind Chop > Yamcha) > (Piccolo Failed Wind Chop > Goku)


@SSJ2 was the one who really forced this one on us and me and @GSM123 fought against it for a while and tried to make it a 1.5x gap and slowly it started creeping up and up and until it's just been bloat city lol. But it's legit valid bloat, like there are other feats suggesting this sort of gap is feasible as well. There's some real roots in it for sure.

Goku finger tap KOing Strongman and so on.

 

[ahill]

If you had superior skills surely. People don't realize all of humanity falls within the 1-7.5 range on the power scale.

Finger Flick is like a 10x feat, so we simply don't have people capable of it really.

Perhaps a giant like Brian Shaw can finger flick a literal baby who can stand and send them flying a bit. But even that's pushing it. Finger Flick is a goated feat.

I've JJ skills. I've watched his fights tens of times, and rewatched in slow motion. I can replicate his style and technique with 100% accuracy when he's fighting in UFC

 

[Dagon]

I can't finger flick a toddler but I think one of those heavyweight professionals probably can.

At best a particularly strong human with trained "flicking" like a kung fu master who moonlights as a frying pan folder could leave a nasty welt on a toddler with a finger flick.

 

[Power Level Guy]

I've JJ skills. I've watched his fights tens of times, and rewatched in slow motion. I can replicate his style and technique with 100% accuracy when he's fighting in UFC

Trying to fight JJ's style without his length is suicide. He over relies on those long ass arms and would have a lot of trouble if he was a regular sized guy.

At best a particularly strong human with trained "flicking" like a kung fu master who moonlights as a frying pan folder could leave a nasty welt on a toddler with a finger flick.

Exactly. And when we say "finger flick" we aren't talking about mere damage, we are talking about launching your opponent in a way that's like being hit with a super powerful kick. This is just a ridiculous superiority advantage humanity can't seem to possess over one another.


Damn, imagine how insane we sound talking about how far we can flick a child lol

 

[ahill]

Trying to fight JJ's style without his length is suicide. He over relies on those long ass arms and would have a lot of trouble if he was a regular sized guy.


Exactly. And when we say "finger flick" we aren't talking about mere damage, we are talking about launching your opponent in a way that's like being hit with a super powerful kick. This is just a ridiculous superiority advantage humanity can't seem to possess over one another.


Damn, imagine how insane we sound talking about how far we can flick a child lol

But I've a huge reach. I'm 6'0 and have a 6'4 reach

 

[Power Level Guy]

But I've a huge reach. I'm 6'0 and have a 6'4 reach

Damn, then with range like that you can definitely emulate it. Jon is a range master. You are either in range for his punches and kicks, or he's kicking your knee out, or he's kneeing you when you close in too fast, or he's throwing an elbow. He's a nightmare. And then you can't even wrestle with him either. Bro, is a legit nightmare to deal with.

 

[Dagon]

So basically we conclude this...

Since Shenron can't force King Piccolo to use any more of his power against his will then he wants, we should conclude that the "Less than Half" level Old Piccolo Daimao was at is the same percentage Young PD is at as well.

So basically we've concluded this...

Piccolo 40
Goku 45
FP Piccolo 100

So despite having a 2.25x advantage over Goku, he still was unable to send him flying with his wind chop attempt.

So there...

(Jackie Wind Chop > Yamcha) > (Piccolo Failed Wind Chop > Goku)


@SSJ2 was the one who really forced this one on us and me and @GSM123 fought against it for a while and tried to make it a 1.5x gap and slowly it started creeping up and up and until it's just been bloat city lol. But it's legit valid bloat, like there are other feats suggesting this sort of gap is feasible as well. There's some real roots in it for sure.

Goku finger tap KOing Strongman and so on.

Where can I find those feats in the manga?

 

[ahill]

Damn, then with range like that you can definitely emulate it. Jon is a range master. You are either in range for his punches and kicks, or he's kicking your knee out, or he's kneeing you when you close in too fast, or he's throwing an elbow. He's a nightmare. And then you can't even wrestle with him either. Bro, is a legit nightmare to deal with.

Lol jokes aside, how much time could you fight Alex Pereira before being finished?

 

[Power Level Guy]

Where can I find those feats in the manga?

As soon as Piccolo goes full power, he tries to wind chop Goku.

And right after Yamcha uses his Wolf Fang Fist on Jackie Chun in the 21st, Jackie ups his ability and wind chops Yamcha.

 

[ahill]

Damn, then with range like that you can definitely emulate it. Jon is a range master. You are either in range for his punches and kicks, or he's kicking your knee out, or he's kneeing you when you close in too fast, or he's throwing an elbow. He's a nightmare. And then you can't even wrestle with him either. Bro, is a legit nightmare to deal with.

Don't forget the eye poke too

 

[Power Level Guy]

Lol jokes aside, how much time could you fight Alex Pereira before being finished?

Brother, Alex is one of the toughest MMA fighters of all time and is a 6'4 230+ man with a 6 pack. What kind of question is this? Lol

You do realize I am like a regular guy, right? With minimal training?

 

[Power Level Guy]

Don't forget the eye poke too

Yeah, forgot about that, that eye poke game is deadly and plays a legit factor, that must be terrifying to deal with. It's so hard to close distance on him.

 

[Dagon]

As soon as Piccolo goes full power, he tries to wind chop Goku.

And right after Yamcha uses his Wolf Fang Fist on Jackie Chun in the 21st, Jackie ups his ability and wind chops Yamcha.

Against full power old Piccolo? I don't think I'm seeing it.

 

[ahill]

Yeah, forgot about that, that eye poke game is deadly and plays a legit factor, that must be terrifying to deal with. It's so hard to close distance on him.

When Gustafsson took him down, he should have tried to work on the ground and pound... He let JJ get up... We've never seen a fighter on top of JJ with JJ working on bottom position. I think he missed his shot there afraid of JJ's ground game...

 

[Power Level Guy]

When Gustafsson took him down, he should have tried to work on the ground and pound... He let JJ get up... We've never seen a fighter on top of JJ with JJ working on bottom position. I think he missed his shot there afraid of JJ's ground game...

Hmm, I think when you are dealing with a superior wrestler, you don't really want to overly engage because you know they'll turn the tide on you. GSP did this with Koscheck in their 2nd fight, GSP was well trained and is a master of the reactive takedown. He got the takedown, but he knew tussling with the D1 Champ in his wheelhouse would be super dangerous and didn't overly pursue control or position.

Sometimes you just know when you are beat and where not to exhaust energy.

A good example of this going wrong with Rumble vs DC 2, Rumble knew damn well mixing it up with DC was not the right thing to do, but he completely blew it and kept going against an Olympic wrestler.

You never want to fight an opponent in their own strength unless you have no choice.

 

[ahill]

Hmm, I think when you are dealing with a superior wrestler, you don't really want to overly engage because you know they'll turn the tide on you. GSP did this with Koscheck in their 2nd fight, GSP was well trained and is a master of the reactive takedown. He got the takedown, but he knew tussling with the D1 Champ in his wheelhouse would be super dangerous and didn't overly pursue control or position.

Sometimes you just know when you are beat and where not to exhaust energy.

A good example of this going wrong with Rumble vs DC 2, Rumble knew damn well mixing it up with DC was not the right thing to do, but he completely blew it and kept going against an Olympic wrestler.

You never want to fight an opponent in their own strength unless you have no choice.

Yes, but JJ wasn't a jiujitsu expert by then, he was mainly a wrestler. He got huge on jiujitsu later on... We don't know about JJ's submission game. Volk got on top of Islam in the last minute and even tho Makhachev minimized damage very well as wrestling is for sure a huge skill on bottom too, Volk got in solid shots and Islam Makhachev might have gotten worked up really bad if there was a minute plus for Volk...

 

[Power Level Guy]

Yes, but JJ wasn't a jiujitsu expert by then, he was mainly a wrestler. He got huge on jiujitsu later on... We don't know about JJ's submission game. Volk got on top of Islam in the last minute and even tho Makhachev minimized damage very well as wrestling is for sure a huge skill on bottom too, Volk got in solid shots and Islam Makhachev might have gotten worked up really bad if there was a minute plus for Volk...

Well his leverages make him an insane submission artist. He had already submitted quite a few legends by this point. Those arms are legit a cheat code. He's subbed Machida, Henderson, and Vitor Belfort.