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I personally believe that this is still one of the better things to come of recent DB material (it at least didn't make me facepalm nearly as much as Fukkatsu no F, which was literally a mountain load of horrendous asspulls/contrivances ranging from Shisami getting thousands of times stronger without explanation, Freeza making retardedly huge gains and being revived in pieces for no reason, etc.). That being said, like most of the recent material it has many flaws that give it ample room for improvement. Which are the main points you'd have fixed to make it a better product?
- I'd firstly fix the retcon of Freeza's appearance when he is introduced to the Saiyans/destroys Planet Vegeta. He still had stripes over his arms and looked no different from his normal self in Minus as well as the Freeza arc flashback. No reason to change something that ain't broke, Toriyama! :mikey
- I'd remove the Superman ripoff bullshit plot thread of Goku being sent to Earth for his safety and have it so Bardock would send him to Earth with the initiative to conquer it as his first test as his son, so the irony in the man who was to be Earth's destroyer instead being its savior stands. While a minor point, I'd also have Bardock wear his headband and classic armor by the time Freeza kills him.
- Moving onto the main Broly battle, I'd make it so that Broly's rage form is what causes his power to rise without any seeming limit, as his rage allows him to tap into the vast wells of his potential power. (Paragus would explain this has happened before, and that it was only Broly's love for his father that brought him back to his senses when he nearly destroyed Planet Vampa.) As such, I'd have Broly instead put up a fight against Vegeta's SSJ in rage form before the rage form causes him to tap into the limits of his non-SSJ power allowing him to overpower even SSJG Vegeta. Of course, I'd also have Galu start out immediately in SSJG instead of dicking around in base/SSJ. This effectively explains how Broly can make such huge gains by merely fighting rather than him randomly increasing in power a la Hit/manga ToP Gohan. Also, to give Broly more agency/freedom I'd have Broly completely regain his senses by the time he fights SSJ Blue Galu, and only continue the fight to appease his Saiyan instincts (until Paragus's murder spurs him into a berserker rage when he goes SSJ).
- To explain how Gogeta is somehow stronger than Trunks arc Vegetto despite using a lower fusion, I'd also have Vegeta consider it ridiculous that SSJ Blue Kakarotto is no match for SSJ Broly despite having grown so much stronger over the course of the ToP and its aftermath.
- I'd also have Trunks beginning to reach puberty at this point, as he should be around 15 now that Bra is a baby (and Goten being jealous that his friend suddenly got way taller). These kids can't stay midgets forever.
- When Galu and Vegeta fail the Fusion Dance, Gohan mistakes their ki vanishing to be an indication that Broly has somehow killed the two after finishing things with Freeza. Also, Goku and Vegeta only fail the dance once, and Gohan ends up being Broly's next punching bag after Freeza, rather than Freeza antilogically lasting for an entire hour.
- And of course, the elephant in the room of Freeza's dumb wish. The wish itself is fine as a gag, but the reasoning for it in the movie was absolute AIDS. I'd instead have it so that Freeza now knows immortality would do him no good if Zeno were to erase him or the universe, and also add that Freeza following the ToP now wishes to surpass Beerus using his own power so he can rule all the universes one day.
- Broly dropping to base randomly after being warped back to Vampa was random. I'd have him wrecking most of that planet as well until he comes across Ba, which snaps him back to his senses as he realized he wasn't alone in the world and allowing him to move on past the death of his papa.
- Gogeta reverts to base following Broly being wished away, but turns SSJ again and gives Freeza a stern warning that the next time he GASLIGHTS another innocent into a pointless battle like this, it'll be a one-way ticket back to hell for him.
Give me your thoughts, bitch niggas.
- I'd firstly fix the retcon of Freeza's appearance when he is introduced to the Saiyans/destroys Planet Vegeta. He still had stripes over his arms and looked no different from his normal self in Minus as well as the Freeza arc flashback. No reason to change something that ain't broke, Toriyama! :mikey
- I'd remove the Superman ripoff bullshit plot thread of Goku being sent to Earth for his safety and have it so Bardock would send him to Earth with the initiative to conquer it as his first test as his son, so the irony in the man who was to be Earth's destroyer instead being its savior stands. While a minor point, I'd also have Bardock wear his headband and classic armor by the time Freeza kills him.
- Moving onto the main Broly battle, I'd make it so that Broly's rage form is what causes his power to rise without any seeming limit, as his rage allows him to tap into the vast wells of his potential power. (Paragus would explain this has happened before, and that it was only Broly's love for his father that brought him back to his senses when he nearly destroyed Planet Vampa.) As such, I'd have Broly instead put up a fight against Vegeta's SSJ in rage form before the rage form causes him to tap into the limits of his non-SSJ power allowing him to overpower even SSJG Vegeta. Of course, I'd also have Galu start out immediately in SSJG instead of dicking around in base/SSJ. This effectively explains how Broly can make such huge gains by merely fighting rather than him randomly increasing in power a la Hit/manga ToP Gohan. Also, to give Broly more agency/freedom I'd have Broly completely regain his senses by the time he fights SSJ Blue Galu, and only continue the fight to appease his Saiyan instincts (until Paragus's murder spurs him into a berserker rage when he goes SSJ).
- To explain how Gogeta is somehow stronger than Trunks arc Vegetto despite using a lower fusion, I'd also have Vegeta consider it ridiculous that SSJ Blue Kakarotto is no match for SSJ Broly despite having grown so much stronger over the course of the ToP and its aftermath.
- I'd also have Trunks beginning to reach puberty at this point, as he should be around 15 now that Bra is a baby (and Goten being jealous that his friend suddenly got way taller). These kids can't stay midgets forever.
- When Galu and Vegeta fail the Fusion Dance, Gohan mistakes their ki vanishing to be an indication that Broly has somehow killed the two after finishing things with Freeza. Also, Goku and Vegeta only fail the dance once, and Gohan ends up being Broly's next punching bag after Freeza, rather than Freeza antilogically lasting for an entire hour.
- And of course, the elephant in the room of Freeza's dumb wish. The wish itself is fine as a gag, but the reasoning for it in the movie was absolute AIDS. I'd instead have it so that Freeza now knows immortality would do him no good if Zeno were to erase him or the universe, and also add that Freeza following the ToP now wishes to surpass Beerus using his own power so he can rule all the universes one day.
- Broly dropping to base randomly after being warped back to Vampa was random. I'd have him wrecking most of that planet as well until he comes across Ba, which snaps him back to his senses as he realized he wasn't alone in the world and allowing him to move on past the death of his papa.
- Gogeta reverts to base following Broly being wished away, but turns SSJ again and gives Freeza a stern warning that the next time he GASLIGHTS another innocent into a pointless battle like this, it'll be a one-way ticket back to hell for him.
Give me your thoughts, bitch niggas.
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