For those who think Piccolo-Kami merging was a 2x power up

[ahill1]

Before you thought that, did you first figure it as a way higher boost, even if you didn't have a specific type of power up in mind?

 

[SSJ2]

I think I had it around a 2.5x boost a long time ago. Probably due to not wanting Piccolo to be anywhere near the Android arc Super Saiyans.

 

[SIAD]

3.333333...x

 

[Dagon]

I floated a 2.5x boost for a while but I decided that 2x is good enough and doesn't contradict anything.

 

[ahill1]

I think I had it around a 2.5x boost a long time ago. Probably due to not wanting Piccolo to be anywhere near the Android arc Super Saiyans.

But how about the initial feeling when you first watched it? Do you think you'd see a 2x/2.5x boost as pretty small if you had read right afterwards some official info confirming it was how stronger Piccolo got?

Honestly I didn't think of a specific number ofc back then but I thought it was a huuuge boost. I think back then I wouldn't see doubling the power as the feeling I had when seeing Piccolo post Kami.

 

[ahill1]

I floated a 2.5x boost for a while but I decided that 2x is good enough and doesn't contradict anything.

The topic is moreso about the initial feeling you had when you first watched it. Would you be likely to think a 2x boost would be kinda puny if someone suggested that, way back then when you first watched it?

 

[SSJ2]

But how about the initial feeling when you first watched it? Do you think you'd see a 2x/2.5x boost as pretty small if you had read right afterwards some official info confirming it was how stronger Piccolo got?

Honestly I didn't think of a specific number ofc back then but I thought it was a huuuge boost. I think back then I wouldn't see doubling the power as the feeling I had when seeing Piccolo post Kami.

Nah I don't think I would have seen it as small. Look at the difference in the reactions between 1st form Freeza and initial 2nd form Freeza by Vegeta. That's how a 2x gap was treated.

 

[SIAD]

I remember that at one time I had:

Piccolo (Arc Future Trunks) = 1
Piccolo (Arc Android) = 50
Piccolo (Fused with Kamisama) = 2,500
Piccolo (CG) = 125,000

 

[Dagon]

The topic is moreso about the initial feeling you had when you first watched it. Would you be likely to think a 2x boost would be kinda puny if someone suggested that, way back then when you first watched it?

The cool factor made it seem like 5x.

 

[Pakl]

I have Kamiccolo 2.16x Piccolo.

 

[Mystic b4 He Got Laid]

Normie DB Fan: Base Saiyans > Piccolo, SSJ 1 × 100 grade 2 x 250

Same DB fan: Kamiccolo x 2 Piccolo

 

[Son.Gohan84]

I think 2x is logical given Nail thought Piccolo could beat Frieza if he came back whole.

Which would give Piccolo like 300K then 600K if he merges enough to beat Form Frieza.

I usually have it for Androids

Piccolo 300
-Kami Weights 550 (rivals Androids)
-Kami 600
Cell (Initial) 470
-Humans 1200
#16 1200
#17 590
#18 552
SSJ Vegeta 410
SSJ Goku 400
SSJ Trunks 340
Frieza (100%) 140
-for comparison

 

[ahill1]

I think 2x is logical given Nail thought Piccolo could beat Frieza if he came back whole.

Which would give Piccolo like 300K then 600K if he merges enough to beat Form Frieza.

I usually have it for Androids

Piccolo 300
-Kami Weights 550 (rivals Androids)
-Kami 600
Cell (Initial) 470
-Humans 1200
#16 1200
#17 590
#18 552
SSJ Vegeta 410
SSJ Goku 400
SSJ Trunks 340
Frieza (100%) 140
-for comparison

Very good numbers imo. I agree with all the placements and the gaps, while always subjective, seem very good to me.

 

[Son.Gohan84]

Very good numbers imo. I agree with all the placements and the gaps, while always subjective, seem very good to me.

Cell seemed worried about Vegeta (IDR the exact lines I think in Viz it was something like “Vegeta! Better hurry” not wanting to fight him. So I think vegeta should be distant rivals with Cell.

I like it

95-100%
-RIVALS

90-95%
-distant rivals one fighter can put up a fight but is outmatched

85-90%
-your getting owned here but can still land some hits and dodge a bit but your overwhelmed

80-85%
-not quite a one shot but close to it you are just getting stomped

70-80%
-one shot

<66%
-tanking

you will never get consistent gaps though so I try to use this to the best of my ability. Based on the right Piccolo and Goku should be like 60-70% of Raditz and Raditz could not rank Gokus kamehameha (970 vs roughly 1300). But Cell can tank Piccolo light Grenade meaning technically the gap should be larger. Then you have old piccolo tanking too which is not possible if you use scouter numbers. So the tanking cut off and who can tank is very inconsistent IMO.

 

[ahill1]

Cell seemed worried about Vegeta (IDR the exact lines I think in Viz it was something like “Vegeta! Better hurry” not wanting to fight him. So I think vegeta should be distant rivals with Cell.

I like it

95-100%
-RIVALS

90-95%
-distant rivals one fighter can put up a fight but is outmatched

85-90%
-your getting owned here but can still land some hits and dodge a bit but your overwhelmed

80-85%
-not quite a one shot but close to it you are just getting stomped

70-80%
-one shot

<66%
-tanking

you will never get consistent gaps though so I try to use this to the best of my ability. Based on the right Piccolo and Goku should be like 60-70% of Raditz and Raditz could not rank Gokus kamehameha (970 vs roughly 1300). But Cell can tank Piccolo light Grenade meaning technically the gap should be larger. Then you have old piccolo tanking too which is not possible if you use scouter numbers. So the tanking cut off and who can tank is very inconsistent IMO.

Yeah I agree pretty much.

 

[Son.Gohan84]

Yeah I agree pretty much.

What are your disagreements?

 

[ahill1]

What are your disagreements?

None