Freeza-Saga Fill-Out

[Fantastische Hure]

Genki-Dama - 100
70% Freeza -
(King Cold -)
50% Freeza -
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku (KHH) -
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku -

Kaio-Ken x10 Goku -

Freeza (No Hands) -
Goku -
Freeza (Initial; powered-up) -
Goku (warming-up) -

Vegeta -
Freeza (Initial) -

3rd Form Freeza -

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Genki-Dama - 100
70% Freeza - 87.5
(King Cold - 85)
50% Freeza - 62.5
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku (KHH) - 59
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku - 54

Kaio-Ken x10 Goku - 27

Freeza (No Hands) - 3.05 - 3.1
Goku - 2.7
Freeza (Initial; powered-up) - 2.25
Goku (warming-up) - 2.125

Vegeta - 1
Freeza (Initial) - 0.95

3rd Form Freeza - 0.4

 

[ahill1]

Genki-Dama - 100
70% Freeza - 87.5
(King Cold -) 72
50% Freeza - 62.5
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku (KHH) - 62.5
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku - 53.2

Kaio-Ken x10 Goku - 26.6

Freeza (No Hands) - 3
Goku - 2.66
Freeza (Initial; powered-up) - 2.25
Goku (warming-up) - 2.18

Vegeta - 1.5
Freeza (Initial) - 1.5

3rd Form Freeza - 1

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I actually never thought of having the KHH equal to 50% Freeza, but it makes sense. Only thing is how Freeza could have held-on that long against an attack like that, unless he used a-bit above 50%.

 

[ahill1]

I actually never thought of having the KHH equal to 50% Freeza, but it makes sense. Only thing is how Freeza could have held-on that long against an attack like that, unless he used a-bit above 50%.

I think it was implied Freeza used more power while blocking the KHH:


Chapter: 314 (DBZ 120), P1.3-4
Context: still following the Kaio-Ken x20 Kamehameha
Goku: “Wh-what…! That didn’t effect him much…! S-so that wasn’t a bluff either…He really is only using half his power…”

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I actually never thought of having the KHH equal to 50% Freeza, but it makes sense. Only thing is how Freeza could have held-on that long against an attack like that, unless he used a-bit above 50%.

I think it was implied Freeza used more power while blocking the KHH:


Chapter: 314 (DBZ 120), P1.3-4
Context: still following the Kaio-Ken x20 Kamehameha
Goku: “Wh-what…! That didn’t effect him much…! S-so that wasn’t a bluff either…He really is only using half his power…”

I know of that, even-though Goku is using present-tense when talking about Freeza only using half of his power.

 

[ahill1]

So you think Freeza stayed at 50% while blocking the KHH?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

So you think Freeza stayed at 50% while blocking the KHH?

I don't know really. He could be, after-all he seemed to be using what looked like a Kiai-blast to completely block the KHH and not just push it away.

 

[ahill1]

I see. But Goku realising Freeza was only using 1/2 of his full power tells me Freeza used more power to block the Kamehameha. Goku expected the Kamehameha to do more damage somebody with the power of Freeza 50% and realised Freeza had more power beyond his 50% form after Freeza did something to avoid being overpowered by the blast. Freeza used less than 70% though, since the 70% he later uses being pointed out that it was something special shows he hadn't used 70% until then IMO. But that's just how I interpret it.

 

[Kyo]

Genki-Dama - 100
70% Freeza - 84
(King Cold -) 75
50% Freeza - 60
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku (KHH) - 58
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku - 50

Kaio-Ken x10 Goku - 25

Freeza (No Hands) - 2.8
Goku - 2.5
Freeza (Initial; powered-up) - 1.8
Goku (warming-up) - 1.7

Vegeta - 1.2
Freeza (Initial) - 1.1

3rd Form Freeza - .6

 

[kriss-]

Genki-Dama - ∞
70% Freeza - 84
(King Cold -) 90
50% Freeza - 60
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku (KHH) - 60
Kaio-Ken x20 Goku - 60

Kaio-Ken x10 Goku - 30

Freeza (No Hands) - 3.6
Goku - 3
Freeza (Initial; powered-up) - 3.2

Vegeta - 2.5
Freeza (Initial) - 2.4

3rd Form Freeza - 2

 

[ahill1]

@Kyo - Freeza (initial) at 91% of Vegeta? Nothing implies Vegeta would tool Freeza like he did with handsome Zarbon.

@Saylé - I think Goku increased his power when fighting Freeza (without hands). Both said the warm up is over. Freeza (without hands) > Goku base (full power) > Freeza (warming up) >= Goku (warming up) IMO.

 

[ahill1]

@2kew/4u

Where do you have Vegeta and Piccolo in the Mecha Freeza's arrival?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Probably higher than Goku from Namek Saga for some-reason I forgot.

 

[ahill1]

Probably higher than Goku from Namek Saga for some-reason I forgot.

So Vegeta tripled his power? :shock:

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Probably higher than Goku from Namek Saga for some-reason I forgot.

So Vegeta tripled his power? :shock:

mang0/animu logic

 

[ahill1]

My actual Freeza saga power levels:

Piccolo - 1,500,000
3rd form Freeza - 2,000,000
Final form Freeza (initial) - 3,000,000
Vegeta - 3,000,000
Goku (warming up) - 4,400,000
Freeza (embarassing Vegeta, fighting Goku) - 4,500,000
Goku (full power) - 5,400,000
Freeza (w/o hands) - 6,000,000
Goku Kaioken x10 - 54,000,000
Goku Kaioken x20 - 108,000,000
Freeza (50%) - 127,500,000
Freeza (70%) - 178,500,000
Freeza (100%) - 255,000,000
Goku Super Saiyajin - 270,000,000

How does this look?

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I'd think Vegeta and Initial Freeza could be quite a-bit higher, but that's my opinion.