Future #18 Vs Imperfect Cell ( Ginger Town )

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They're close but Imperfect Cell is so wise that makes him superior.

 

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Okay wait, I misread that. Anywho, no Future #18 shouldn't be stronger. She's implied to rival SS Vegeta who is inferior to Ginger Town Cell.

Where's is she implied to rivals SSJ Vegeta?

But Cell said that he will absorb power to surpass #18 and #17, so this implie that future #18 is stronger than Cell, no?

When Cell was in his future future timeline, he was stronger even than the Present Adroids. By reverting to his
coocoon state, he lost power that he had to get back by absorbing humans. Remember, when he talked to
Piccolo, he said about his ''initial evolution''. Then, he got carried away and absorbed more humans than
needed. In other words...

Imperfect Cell (post a massive number of humans)>Imperfect Cell (initial evolution)>Present Androids>
Ginger Cell>Future Androids

 

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Cell also said that Trunks didn't stand a chance against #17 and #18, let alone himself. Even if you presume he is weaker after time traveling, Vegeta implies Cell to be stronger than himself and Cell also appears to still consider himself more powerful than Trunks (who states the future cyborgs aren't that much above him).

Also, #16 says that weighted Piccolo is near #18 and #17 in power, and Cell says much the same thing despite present cyborgs >> future cyborgs. It's likely Toriyama just unintentionally gave Cell uncanny insight on the present cyborgs due to shitty writing.

 

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[ahill1]

Uuuuufff... this is what I'm saying to a stubborn member of neoseeker, but he keep saying... Cell did not know that Present Androids are weaker than Future Androids... Jesus I'm glad I'm right.

 

[ahill1]

Cell also said that Trunks didn't stand a chance against #17 and #18, let alone himself. Even if you presume he is weaker after time traveling, Vegeta implies Cell to be stronger than himself and Cell also appears to still consider himself more powerful than Trunks (who states the future cyborgs aren't that much above him).

Also, #16 says that weighted Piccolo is near #18 and #17 in power, and Cell says much the same thing despite present cyborgs >> future cyborgs. It's likely Toriyama just unintentionally gave Cell uncanny insight on the present cyborgs due to shitty writing.

#17 implied that Trunks is a simple toy though.

 

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Maybe #18's blast was just haxed

 

[ahill1]

Maybe #18's blast was just haxed

Do you think that Cell ( Vs Future Trunks ) is stronger than Cell ( Ginger Town )?

 

[Papasmurf]

There's a possibility only because of Future Cell having an aura. But since it's never mentioned, I'm on the fence about it. Knowing Toriyama I'm not even certain he remembered Cell not having an aura in Gingertown.

 

[ahill1]

There's a possibility only because of Future Cell having an aura. But since it's never mentioned, I'm on the fence about it. Knowing Toriyama I'm not even certain he remembered Cell not having an aura in Gingertown.

I don't have a reason to believe Cell ( Vs future trunks ) is somehow stronger than Cell ( ginger town ); hell he should even weaker since Cell absorbed so many people in Giger Town.

Aura doesn't make much sense... Spopovich had a flight aura while Goku ( BoZ ) and Piccolo ( BoZ ) did bot heve one.

Piccolo ( Vs Cell Jr ) had not an aura while Piccolo ( Vs #17 ) had an aura. It's not so consistent.

In addition to the aura, there is some indication that Cell was weaker after converting into larva?

 

[Papasmurf]

Well, we can somewhat make sense of Cell being weaker after regressing to his larvae stage if he doesn't keep any of what little ki he absorbed in the future. The Piccolo thing's a good point, although it probably has to do with Piccolo being more relevant of a character in his battle with #17 than in the Cell Games than anything else. It's also worth noting that Cell never showed an aura until he fought #17 and #16 several days after Gingertown, while from a storywriting perspective Future Cell's battle with Trunks was after the main conflict in the past was fully resolved an entire 4-5 volumes later. Toriyama might have just portrayed Cell going full power with an aura because he was so used to doing so, while this wasn't the case in Gingertown.

 

[ahill1]

Well, we can somewhat make sense of Cell being weaker after regressing to his larvae stage if he doesn't keep any of what little ki he absorbed in the future. The Piccolo thing's a good point, although it probably has to do with Piccolo being more relevant of a character in his battle with #17 than in the Cell Games than anything else. It's also worth noting that Cell never showed an aura until he fought #17 and #16 several days after Gingertown, while from a storywriting perspective Future Cell's battle with Trunks was after the main conflict in the past was fully resolved an entire 4-5 volumes later. Toriyama might have just portrayed Cell going full power with an aura because he was so used to doing so, while this wasn't the case in Gingertown.

Only a question Kenshi: Where do you have Piccolo ( Cell Games )? Close to Vegeta and Trunks?

 

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A good deal weaker than Vegeta and Trunks imo. I think he's still relevant enough to Vegeta that he'd help him win if they fought a Cell Jr. at the same time, but his actual power is only enough that the Cell Jr.s can't defeat him too quickly while toying.

 

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Also, #16 says that weighted Piccolo is near #18 and #17 in power, and Cell says much the same thing despite present cyborgs >> future cyborgs. It's likely Toriyama just unintentionally gave Cell uncanny insight on the present cyborgs due to shitty writing.

Or maybe Future Cyborgs began as strong as Present ones but got weaker by wearing out.

 

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Only in DB Multiverse

 

[ahill1]

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So do you think that Cell knew somehow that Present Cyborgs >> Future Cyborgs?

 

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I just attribute it to shitty writing. Since Cell was going to take 20+ years to be completed it honestly seems like infinite energy models detioriating over time would've been a detail worth mentioning if it was actually the case. Weaker androids would probably mean a weaker completed Cell.

 

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Only in DB Multiverse

I'm just saying it is a possible in universe explanation instead of just saying ''shitty write''. Maybe Cell did not
consider the factor of machinery wearing out and assumed Future Cyborgs were as strong as Present ones.