Future androids=Present androids

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HUEBR_Tapion said:
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Still doesn't help you. Cell's timeline = \ = Future Trunks's timeline
What would be the difference other than that Trunks and the Androids are dead in Cell's timeline.
The fact that Future Trunks was the one who killed Freeza on Cell's timeline, which implies the Androids on that timeline are stronger than normal too.
But I thought everything played out the same thing on each timeline except in the current one where Trunks has to step in to kill Freeza instead of Goku.
 

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Cell mentioned Trunks and one panel of Cell talking about his timeline shows Freeza being cut in half by a sword.
 

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Must've been Xeno Trunks trying to stop Towa.
Nope, it was officially stated on Daizenshit 7 that it was Beerus with a Trunks custome. Stop being dumb Kenshit. :sponge
 

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I wrote the Daizenshit. I have every authority to retcon it however I want :sponge :sponge
 

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HUEBR_Tapion said:
Cell mentioned Trunks and one panel of Cell talking about his timeline shows Freeza being cut in half by a sword.
That was probably in the present timeline. After all, Cell was there before Freeza invaded the planet but in a larval form and his tracking device could tract what happened to Freeza on Earth.
 

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All in all, even though there is no direct proof about Alternate Androids=Present Androids, all gaps implied
at the saga lean towards there. The only thing against, is a stupid statement; take it out and nothing
changes at the plot. I mean, i don't even know why AT put that statement; he was the one who had built
up so much about the Androids being horrible and then he nerfs them.
The only thing that causes problems is 17's less than half comment which will make the gap between mecha trunks and android arch goku and vegeta very small considering trunks should logically be around more than half of 17 and goku and vegeta can be at most around 70%

How about...
40% Seventeen- 40
Alternate Gohan- 45
Mecha Trunks- 50
Yardrat Goku- 60

Goku wasn't implied to have much gains over the 3 years
We have sick goku who's on a completely different level than Yardrat goku,and Full power goku is even stronger than that
 

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Fearless Boo said:
HUEBR_Tapion said:
Cell mentioned Trunks and one panel of Cell talking about his timeline shows Freeza being cut in half by a sword.
That was probably in the present timeline. After all, Cell was there before Freeza invaded the planet but in a larval form and his tracking device could tract what happened to Freeza on Earth.

Except that isn't the context of the scene. He was talking about his own timeline.
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KyuubiAhri said:
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The only thing that causes problems is 17's less than half comment which will make the gap between mecha trunks and android arch goku and vegeta very small considering trunks should logically be around more than half of 17 and goku and vegeta can be at most around 70%

How about...
40% Seventeen- 40
Alternate Gohan- 45
Mecha Trunks- 50
Yardrat Goku- 60

Goku wasn't implied to have much gains over the 3 years
We have sick goku who's on a completely different level than Yardrat goku,and Full power goku is even stronger than that

I don't go with Sick>Yardrat, i have analyze the reasons multiple times, let's not go there again.
 

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HUEBR_Tapion said:
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Cell mentioned Trunks and one panel of Cell talking about his timeline shows Freeza being cut in half by a sword.
That was probably in the present timeline. After all, Cell was there before Freeza invaded the planet but in a larval form and his tracking device could tract what happened to Freeza on Earth.

Except that isn't the context of the scene. He was talking about his own timeline.
dragon-ball-70399.jpg

Mecha Freeza killed by some Alternate Trunks in Cell's timeline makes zero sense. Trunkses and Cell's timeline
are the same at their greatest part. Cell's statement about Trunkses samples could just be referring to the Trunks
of the timeline when he was a baby.
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
HUEBR_Tapion said:
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That was probably in the present timeline. After all, Cell was there before Freeza invaded the planet but in a larval form and his tracking device could tract what happened to Freeza on Earth.

Except that isn't the context of the scene. He was talking about his own timeline.
dragon-ball-70399.jpg

Mecha Freeza killed by some Alternate Trunks in Cell's timeline makes zero sense. Trunkses and Cell's timeline
are the same at their greatest part. Cell's statement about Trunkses samples could just be referring to the Trunks
of the timeline when he was a baby.

People launching energy blasts from their hands also doesn't make a lick of sense. We're talking about Dragon Ball, the same series that has a guy with a power level of 408 destroying the moon without breaking a sweet despite being only 81.6 times stronger than the Farmer, the same guy who relied on a shotgun to defend himself. It doesn't have to make sense.

Also, Cell talking about Trunks when he was a baby doesn't follow. By the time Cell was being created, Trunks hadn't been born yet. His last sentence(but we already had enough Saiyan cells) also implies that they didn't get Trunks's cell simply because they didn't feel like it, not because they couldn't.
 

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The idea of Trunks killing Freeza in Cell's timeline is pretty odd. The whole point of Trunks even coming across Freeza was to warn them about the Androids and give Goku the antidote. Cell came from a world that was destroyed by the Androids. Trunks was the remaining warrior in Cell's timeline, which is why he quickly realized he was the one who stopped the Androids.

Trunks' timeline is mirror of the timeline that Cell came from since most of the events are similar. Cell was developed for various yrs in which the spy robots had ample time to monitor Trunks fighting the Android. The computer just refused to take his cells because they weren't necessary.
 

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Evil Vegeta said:
The idea of Trunks killing Freeza in Cell's timeline is pretty odd. The whole point of Trunks even coming across Freeza was to warn them about the Androids and give Goku the antidote. Cell came from a world that was destroyed by the Androids. Trunks was the remaining warrior in Cell's timeline, which is why he quickly realized he was the one who stopped the Androids.

Trunks' timeline is mirror of the timeline that Cell came from since most of the events are similar. Cell was developed for various yrs in which the spy robots had ample time to monitor Trunks fighting the Android. The computer just refused to take his cells because they weren't necessary.

I agree it's odd, actually it's pure idiocy, but why did Cell mention specifically Trunks and why the artwork showed Freeza being cut in half in a sword if Trunks wasn't the one who killed Freeza in his timeline?
 

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Good question. I'd just chalk it up to AT deciding to reuse older panels instead of create ones where he'd have to demonstrate Future Goku's defeat of them in a different manner. The main issue with the reused artwork is the fact that he mentions Trunks right after, which could imply that Cell took the cells from Freeza and Cold while Trunks fought them.

I tend to just look at the other things Cell said. He was surprised that the Androids hadn't took Vegeta out yet, but the only thing he says about Goku is that him being alive is completely different from what he knew in his timeline. Cell would've probably said the Androids killed Goku if that were the case. This tells me the heart virus was what got Goku in Cell's timeline.

Judging by the way Cell showed surprise at seeing Vegeta and hearing about Goku, he probably assumed the events of his timeline were very similar to the main timeline. Well, except for the fact that Piccolo was merged with Kami.
 
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