Gap between Ssj kid Gohan and Full power cell (SSj2 2x multiplyer)

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Not exactly, he wanted Goku to test him in battle. Cell even made it clear he only went a bit above Goku's power to make the fight interesting. There's also Cell telling Goku that even if Good eats a senzu bean, his odds of winning barely increase at all he must have TONS of reserves left to make a claim like that.

So is like 2x can't be considered as TONS of power? That's probably enough to beat Goku and the others even if they ate a sensu bean again.

 

[Pocket-Gog~]

I put the gap between SSJ Gohan and Perfect Cell at a 1.15X gap.

 

[ahill1]

I go with a ~2x gap. It has to be pretty significant for him to be totally confident and willing to let Gohan show his true power when SSJ Gohan was more or less evenly matched with his suppressed power.

 

[p123]

Yea, 2x seems fair.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

I put the gap between SSJ Gohan and Perfect Cell at a 1.15X gap.

Goku was shocked when he witnessed cell's cull power.

 

[xmysticgohanx]

No one with any sense believes SSJ2 is only 2x.

Rage boost

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Yea, 2x seems fair.

But cell had an aura,and the general consensus is that if you have aura you must be more than half power

 

[p123]

Nappa had an aura and 50% Goku had an aura.

 

[ahill1]

Injured Goku (against Cell Junior) had one too.

 

[Pyro]

50% Goku didn't have an aura.

http://comic.dragonballcn.com/list/0.Dragon_Ball-buyao_daolian_ya/0.jp_Kanzenban/DRAGONBALLvol27/014-xvMVe.jpg

 

[ahill1]

Maybe he was powering down in that panel

 

[p123]

Good catch ahill. Is it possible they have aura if they are at their max, regardless of power? What about Gohan's auraless Ssj2 while talking to Goku about not giving up?

He had it the page before though KP.

And yes ahill, he's literally being told to stop powering up.

 

[ahill1]

Maybe. I just think looking at aura or lack of aura isn't a good way to determine what percentage of power a chatacter was using. Semi Cell also hadn't an aura initially and only gained one when going full power against Vegeta, yet I've yet to see someone saying he was using some pretty low portion of his power (like less than half).

I just think the aura comes always with a power up, when the character is shown doing it, screaming in a instance and all. Look at the instances a character shown an aura:

Ginyu - showed one when powering up
Semi Cell - showed when when powering up
1st form Freeza - showed one when powering up
2nd form Freeza - showed one when powering up against Gohan (against Piccolo it was more a silent power up, so it wasn't shown)
1st form Cell, Semi Cell and Cell - all showed one when powering up

I think the main point of an aura is showing visually someone in the process of a power up. In a lot of those instances I cited above, the aura disappeared altogether after the powering up, iirc.

 

[p123]

Good points. It's more for dramatic purpose more than anything. Cell vs Goku looked more epic with Cell having an aura I guess.

 

[ahill1]

Yes, the "dramatics purpose is also a good point". Basically like if AT wanted to present Cell as being at FP or close to full power only to shock us later with the "I've yet to show my full power".

 

[p123]

Yea that's what seems suggested. We are basically led to believe that Cell vs Goku is at full power. It would be awfully boring if we knew Cell was using nowhere near his full power. We have to remember it is a story and it is not a virtual power level machine. He still has to tell the story and make it interesting with plots of twists. Can't have the ki sensing 100% accurate all the time or reveal too much information at one time, it would kill the story.

 

[Victorious]

Doesnt initial true form Freeza have an aura when he finally descends to attack Vegeta? Although it was a gentle one.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Yeah.

 

[Victorious]

I like the idea of SSJ2 power up being very large...for instance bigger than amplified blasts of SSJs. You'd figure a hypothetical SSJ2 Goku at the Cell Games would probably tank 100% MSSJ Goku's warp Kamehameha.

Full Power Perfect Cell goes in between MSSJs and SSJ2s. He's probably around 50% as powerful as SSJ2 Majin Vegeta.

FP PC should be a total beast though..he saw the Cell Juniors get insta killed and still was pretty cocky. Not to mention the general feeling of the power up was one that was immense...especially in the anime.

Cell can sense ki but he seems to have a bit of Freeza' and Cold's shitty ki sensing in him now that i think about it. For instance as Semi Cell he didnt know how much stronger Super Vegeta was than him. He didnt realize Vegeta's Final Flash was gonna fuck him up until the very last split second either..and he doesnt realize how much bigger Gohan's ki is than his even after he hits full power.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Cell seemed to be one of those characters that needed a demonstration before being convinced he was weaker.

-Piccolo powered-up and Cell still tried to fight him directly. He only realized he was outmatched after getting knocked around by him
-Semi-Cell thought Super Saiyan Vegeta challenging him was a joke even though Vegeta was strong enough to fight him at that level
-Cell thought his full-power was more than enough to handle Gohan

Goku looked a bit taken aback by Cell's full-power:

You almost get the impression that Goku was expecting the fight to be much tougher for Gohan. Of course the smile returned after Gohan dropped him with ease. It's possible that Gohan standing around doing nothing might've made it tough for him to understand his real capabilities. Then again, Cell had no issue sensing that Super Saiyan Grade 3 Trunks was much stronger than himself.

Cell's sensing sorta comes and goes. Kinda reminds me of how Super Boo was smart enough to gauge Gohan from the Kaioshin world, only to be shown as a complete dumbass (with Piccolo absorbed) in understanding that Super Vegito was way ahead of him.