Garlic Jr. vs Third Form Freeza

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This is the anime Makyo star powered Garlic Jr. vs Freeza's third form. Who wins?
 

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Super Garlic Jr. likely wins. He was on par with Piccolo several months after the end of the Freeza Arc, with Piccolo being implied to be close to Vegeta during the filler Gohan VS Vegeta fight where Piccolo was the one to break up the fight.
Even if ignoring that filler and going by canon scaling, I can see Piccolo surpassing 3rd form Freeza in a few months, given he was implied to be stronger than Base Namek Goku after 1 year, Garlic Jr. still wins, albeit with high-diff when ignoring his immortality.
 

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I agree. Garlic Jr. should be able to win with minimal difficulty seeing as how badly he wrecked Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin. Piccolo by that point was seemingly only a tad weaker than Vegeta, who had presumably surpassed Third Form Frieza back on Namek, while Gohan was also probably somewhere in that vicinity of power himself.
 

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supercat said:
I agree. Garlic Jr. should be able to win with minimal difficulty seeing as how badly he wrecked Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin.
That version of Piccolo was being hindered by the injuries Kami was sustaining though. Once Kami was safe, the two seemed to be more or less on the same tier, with Piccolo momentarily stomping Garlic Jr. once he increased his power through muscle expansion.
 

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I have Super Garlick Jr inferior to Vegeta (Post Zenkai Dende) anyway.
 

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SIAD said:
I have Super Garlick Jr inferior to Vegeta (Post Zenkai Dende) anyway.

So what you're saying is: Vegeta (Dende Zenkai) > Piccolo (Garlic Jr. arc) = Super Garlic Jr. > Third Form Freeza?
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
supercat said:
I agree. Garlic Jr. should be able to win with minimal difficulty seeing as how badly he wrecked Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin.
That version of Piccolo was being hindered by the injuries Kami was sustaining though. Once Kami was safe, the two seemed to be more or less on the same tier, with Piccolo momentarily stomping Garlic Jr. once he increased his power through muscle expansion.

So it's probably something along the lines of:

Piccolo (size increased) > Super Garlic Jr > Piccolo > / = Vegeta (after Dende healed him) > Third Form Frieza > / = Gohan > Krillin
 

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Animelover5487 said:
SIAD said:
I have Super Garlick Jr inferior to Vegeta (Post Zenkai Dende) anyway.

So what you're saying is: Vegeta (Dende Zenkai) > Piccolo (Garlic Jr. arc) = Super Garlic Jr. > Third Form Freeza?

I have:

Freezer Fourth Form (Vs Vegeta)> Vegeta (Arc Garlick Jr)> Piccolo (size increased) >> Vegeta (after Dende healed him)> Super Garlic Jr> = Fourth Form Freezer (Initial)> Piccolo> Third Form Frieza.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Super Garlic Jr. likely wins. He was on par with Piccolo several months after the end of the Freeza Arc, with Piccolo being implied to be close to Vegeta during the filler Gohan VS Vegeta fight where Piccolo was the one to break up the fight.
Even if ignoring that filler and going by canon scaling, I can see Piccolo surpassing 3rd form Freeza in a few months, given he was implied to be stronger than Base Namek Goku after 1 year, Garlic Jr. still wins, albeit with high-diff when ignoring his immortality.

Yes but doesnt that fight happen like the same day as Goku beating Freeza? If so that's nonsense

Cause on Namek

Vegeta post Dende >> 3rd form Freeza >> Piccolo

Maybe after the 260 days where they wished everone back Piccolo could be close to Vegeta.
 

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Victorious said:
Captain Cadaver said:
Super Garlic Jr. likely wins. He was on par with Piccolo several months after the end of the Freeza Arc, with Piccolo being implied to be close to Vegeta during the filler Gohan VS Vegeta fight where Piccolo was the one to break up the fight.
Even if ignoring that filler and going by canon scaling, I can see Piccolo surpassing 3rd form Freeza in a few months, given he was implied to be stronger than Base Namek Goku after 1 year, Garlic Jr. still wins, albeit with high-diff when ignoring his immortality.

Yes but doesnt that fight happen like the same day as Goku beating Freeza? If so that's nonsense

Cause on Namek

Vegeta post Dende >> 3rd form Freeza >> Piccolo

Maybe after the 260 days where they wished everone back Piccolo could be close to Vegeta.

It is that Piccolo receives energies from Gohan and Krillin, when Goku prepared the Genkidama.
 

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Victorious said:
Yes but doesnt that fight happen like the same day as Goku beating Freeza? If so that's nonsense
Cause on Namek
Vegeta post Dende >> 3rd form Freeza >> Piccolo
Maybe after the 260 days where they wished everone back Piccolo could be close to Vegeta.
Anime scaling tends to be nonsensical in general. Just look at the Boo Arc, for instance. Pus, at least Anime Piccolo has a reasonable excuse to be on Vegeta's level if you assume anime-wise the Ki he got from Kuririn and Gohan elevated him to Vegeta's level permanently.
 

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Captain Cadaver said:
Victorious said:
Yes but doesnt that fight happen like the same day as Goku beating Freeza? If so that's nonsense
Cause on Namek
Vegeta post Dende >> 3rd form Freeza >> Piccolo
Maybe after the 260 days where they wished everone back Piccolo could be close to Vegeta.
Anime scaling tends to be nonsensical in general. Just look at the Boo Arc, for instance. Pus, at least Anime Piccolo has a reasonable excuse to be on Vegeta's level if you assume anime-wise the Ki he got from Kuririn and Gohan elevated him to Vegeta's level permanently.
It wouldn't make much sense for Vegeta to just back down when Piccolo appeared behind him considering how he was saying now that Kakarrot and Freeza are gone he is the strongest of the Universe, that is, he was considering Piccolo a non-threat there. He likely backed down due to not wishing to take out Gohan, as he still glanced over at Gohan before leaving the place. Even Piccolo didn't seem to contradict Vegeta's words when he was saying he'd rule them all now, so even anime-wise Vegeta's likely way above Piccolo there imo.

It's also worth noting that Gohan seems considerably tired after shotting that blast at 3rd form Freeza to the point he was out of breath, and then a portion of Gohan and Kuririn's power was taken to form the Genki-Dama, so it's rather doubtful that the remaining of Gohan and Kuririn's power would take Piccolo from way below 3rd form Freeza to rivaling Vegeta. Specially considering that were that the case he likely would have used such strategy to battle initial final form Freeza, no?
 

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Personally I think that Piccolo (Post energy of Gohan and Krillin) at least comfortably surpassed the power of Third Form Freezer, but even so, he was very behind Vegeta.

  I think that in that season of stuffing, Vegeta was intimidated a bit by having Piccolo behind, since he would not defeat him in one fell swoop and this by defeating Piccolo would make Gohan furious and give Vegeta problems.

  When Goku returns to Earth, I have Vegeta with an insignificant advantage over Piccolo.
 

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