Gear Third Luffy (pre-Time-Skip) vs Luffy (post time-skip)

[Fantastische Hure]

Who wins?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Base Luffy stomps, considering he's been shown to consistently be around Base Sanji's level, who should be far above Part 1 Gear 3rd Luffy due to only needing 1 Diable Jambe to beat a Pacifista and treat the android as little more than a nuisance. On top of that, G3 Luffy doesn't even have the speed or stamina to keep up with his Part 2 base self, making things even easier for Part 2 Rufi.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Base Luffy stomps, considering he's been shown to consistently be around Base Sanji's level, who should be far above Part 1 Gear 3rd Luffy due to only needing 1 Diable Jambe to beat a Pacifista and treat the android as little more than a nuisance. On top of that, G3 Luffy doesn't even have the speed or stamina to keep up with his Part 2 base self, making things even easier for Part 2 Rufi.

What feats does post-time-skip Sanji have?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

- Treating a Pacifista as trash and breaking it's neck with one Diable Jambe.
- Seeming to do equally as well as Jimbei against Wadatsumi.
- Injuring Vergo somewhat with Diable Jambe, who was stronger than Smoker, who should be >> Base Luffy based on him being able to force Luffy into using Gear 2nd when in Tashigi's body.
- Clashing with Doflamingo momentarily in Dressrosa without getting his leg broke like against Vergo, implying he'd become stronger since then.

 

[SSJ2]

Seeming to do equally as well as Jimbei against Wadatsumi.

Couldn't this technically imply Sanji ~ Ace then?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Couldn't this technically imply Sanji ~ Ace then?

Ace's fight with Jimbei was years before the main story. Considering his potential as a D and that this was long before he earned his position as a Yonko Commander, I'd say it's most likely that Ace improved drastically since then. Gear 2nd Luffy was also shown equal to Jimbei on Fishman Island, yet via scaling, Ace should be capable of stomping him via feats at Marineford.

Ace (Main Story) >> Jimbei ~ Ace (VS Jimbei)

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Which Yonkō was Ace under?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Which Yonkō was Ace under?

That one guy with the white moustache. Can't remember his name. Whitestache or something.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Which Yonkō was Ace under?

That one guy with the white moustache. Can't remember his name. Whitestache or something.

Hulk Hogan?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

That's right, brotha. No Devil Fruit is a match for the 24 inch pythons!

 

[sei'taer]

He ate the backstage politic-no-mi

Nothing can stop his creative control!

 

[ahill1]

Couldn't this technically imply Sanji ~ Ace then?

Ace's fight with Jimbei was years before the main story. Considering his potential as a D and that this was long before he earned his position as a Yonko Commander, I'd say it's most likely that Ace improved drastically since then. Gear 2nd Luffy was also shown equal to Jimbei on Fishman Island, yet via scaling, Ace should be capable of stomping him via feats at Marineford.

Ace (Main Story) >> Jimbei ~ Ace (VS Jimbei)

But Ace fought Jimbei two years ago. Sure Jimbei should have improved between the fight with Ace and Marineford, let alone post Timeskip.

 

[Diamond Ryan]

I think the difference is that Ace is a lot younger than Jimbei, and thus has a lot more room to improve.

 

[SSJ2]

Which Yonkō was Ace under?

That one guy with the white moustache. Can't remember his name. Whitestache or something.

Hulk Hogan?

 

[ahill1]

I think the difference is that Ace is a lot younger than Jimbei, and thus has a lot more room to improve.

That might be the case, but Jimbei has had an additional of two years of [maybe] training compared to Ace, which could have closed the gap Ace might have opened between them.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

His feats in Part 2 have been fairly lacklustre, so I doubt he'd have improved at all since then. That, and Ace is a D, so his potential for growth would be far higher than Jimbei's anyway.