Gohan kicking Nappa

[SSJ2]

How powerful do you see Gohan being here?

His attack was enough to make Nappa enraged, something even Piccolo's blast to the back couldn't do..

 

[Diamond Ryan]

A little bit less than 2800 probably. Piccolo had also just gotten bodied a few minutes prior when he blasted Nappa so I don't expect him to have been able to put all his power into that.

 

[SSJ2]

I agree. I do think Gohan's kick should be the #1 power for the time tho. Nobody else was able to send Nappa flying like that unless he was off-guard. In this case, Gohan even got the best of him..

I don't see it being much less than 2,800, but then that makes the reaction to the 2,800 Masenko seem meaningless...

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Gohan was 1500 on Namek. I have him at 1400 on Earth, which is exactly half of the massenko, and his enraged state
exactly in the middle of that gap (2100). Nice and tidy.

 

[p123]

Masenko > Gohan's Kick > Piccolo

I think there are some issues with the Vegeta Saga, I have to look into it more thoroughly.

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Was Vegeta with his scouter on when Gohan kicked Nappa?

 

[p123]

Yes...

Gohan (Kicking Nappa) > Piccolo

I think Enraged Gohan = Gohan Kicking Nappa. Gohan is pissed right before he kicks Nappa too.

 

[p123]

Well wtf, I didn't know Gohan fought evenly with freaking Vegeta. God Damn! How did Vegeta lose that much power?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Seems like the scouter didn't react to Gohan's kick, but it reacted to him screaming out loud.

I think between the fake moon and returning to normal, Vegeta was probably around the 4-5k range at the most.

 

[p123]

Gohan was fighting evenly with him, so Vegeta couldn't have been that strong.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Gohan fought evenly with him briefly. Vegeta started beating the crap outta him not too long after.

Gohan was also enraged, so there's no telling how strong he was there.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Well wtf, I didn't know Gohan fought evenly with freaking Vegeta. God Damn! How did Vegeta lose that much power?

Didn't we agree Enraged Gohan (vs Vegeta) >> Enraged Gohan (vs Nappa), because of Goku's statement (herms): ''I can't even
beat him with 5x kaioken'' ?

 

[p123]

No, you guys were telling me about what new discoveries you found, I guess this was it.

Damn, so Gohan's stupidly powerful here then huh?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Or maybe Vegeta is just pathetically weak by this point.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Gohan: “He’s so strong! Even though he should be tired out from fighting with dad.”

Gohan got a nice kick on Vegeta and fought back for awhile, but spent most of the match getting hit.

So he still seems strong. I don't think he's super weak here.

 

[Papasmurf]

Well wtf, I didn't know Gohan fought evenly with freaking Vegeta. God Damn! How did Vegeta lose that much power?

Didn't we agree Enraged Gohan (vs Vegeta) >> Enraged Gohan (vs Nappa), because of Goku's statement (herms): ''I can't even
beat him with 5x kaioken'' ?

Goku made the 5x statement when vegeta was still an oozaru

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

I'm pretty sure Withheld is refering to the idea of Base Vegeta >> 1/10 of Kaioken x5 Goku >> 2,800 Gohan.

 

[Void]

Well wtf, I didn't know Gohan fought evenly with freaking Vegeta. God Damn! How did Vegeta lose that much power?

Didn't we agree Enraged Gohan (vs Vegeta) >> Enraged Gohan (vs Nappa), because of Goku's statement (herms): ''I can't even
beat him with 5x kaioken'' ?

Goku made the 5x statement when vegeta was still an oozaru

What's the bare minimum for Oozaru Vegeta if Goku doesn't think KKx5 will work, 50,000? Base Vegeta would be 5,000 bare minimum at that point. You could argue that reverting back to normal from Oozaru weakens you, though. Weren't Goku and Gohan always worn out whenever they reverted back? Vegeta could end up being closer to 3,000 after, which would make enraged Gohands 2,800 a good match.

This all makes me question how Vegeta could survive the Genki Dama at that level and still thrash everyone.

 

[Papasmurf]

Vegeta momentarily copied Kaio-ken to survive the genkidama. Like he copied Galu's ki sense on Namek out of nowhere.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

"If a low-level Saiyan can raise their power instantly, there's no reason why I can't!"