Gohan (Vs Kefla) vs SSJB Goku (vs Jiren)

p123

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From the Super manga.

I think Gohan and Kefla are stronger than Goku at this point for sure. Damn Gohan surpassing his father again. Even at this level. Nuts. And with no training. Unreal.
 

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Gohan stomps. I don't see Kuririn's statement as holding any weight when he can't sense God Ki and the following chapter tends to show the cast have a more skewered perception of Goku as some miracle worker in terms of fighting no matter the situation. I don't see any evidence of Goku having gotten any stronger in PSSB since he gained the form.

Ultimate Gohan ~ SSJ Kefla > Jiren (Powered up against Hit) >> Initial Jiren >> PSSB Goku
 

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Kale in terms of pure power was relevant to both Golden Freeza and PSSJB Galu. She then fuses with her lesbo lover and obviously gets stronger, no way she's still under Goku imo. If Kefla got no power up the pride troopers wouldn't say her attacks were on a new level, they'd likely say she had more control now.
 

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Gohan would rip his father's guts out for reasons explained above.
 

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