Gohan vs Yakkon

[p123]

How would have this went down>

 

[withheldforprivacy]

Gohan, who knew his father's power 7 years prior, believed he would need help to win in base. That implies
Yakon is at least stronger than Cell Games Base Goku level. Now, considering Gohan was implied to have lost
a huge deal of power over the 7 years, i don't think he can win.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yakon rivalled Goku. Gohan's power is nothing to Goku.

Yakon >/~/< Goku >>> Gohan

Yakon one-shots.

 

[p123]

I don't really see anything that suggests that the Base Saiyans or Super Saiyans are much different than each other.

It's only when we see Super Saiyan 2 do we hear reactions of each other's power.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Vegeta thinks he can defeat Dabura easily, Gohan struggled with him.

 

[Clearin]

Gohan didn't offer to help until Yakkon used the darkness. In fact when Yakkon first shows his speed and surprises everyone, Kaioshin tells everyone they should help but Gohan tells him to quit being a little bitch cos Goku's got this.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Gohan didn't offer to help until Yakkon used the darkness. In fact when Yakkon first shows his speed and surprises everyone, Kaioshin tells everyone they should help but Gohan tells him to quit being a little bitch cos Goku's got this.

You can interpret that differently, too, and just think Gohan was confident because he thought Goku could still turn into a Super-Saiyan, where-as once he figured he can't, he asked whether he could help him.

 

[p123]

Yes we have

Goku/Vegeta > Gohan/Dabura

So


Yakkon/ Base Goku/Vegeta > Base Gohan>


I don't get the feeling Gohan would be dwarfed here.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Goku >/>> Vegeta, though, before Majin.

 

[p123]

I don't think so. I think Goku and Vegeta show similar powers up until the SSJ2 burst. I don't think Vegeta can discern that Goku is his superior until then.

I think it's implied that Goku = Vegeta up to that point.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, then it is revealed that Goku is in-fact still quite a bit stronger than Vegeta.

It might be a retcon or whatever, but it works, so why not?

 

[p123]

Interesting, I just watched Goku vs Yakkon on Youtube and Goku seems to have a solid power advantage over Yakkon.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

they rival from wot was shown

goku could still be stronger, but he can easily take a lot of damage from yakon (which is why gohan might have suggested teaming-up)

 

[SSJ2]

I don't really see anything that suggests that the Base Saiyans or Super Saiyans are much different than each other.

It's only when we see Super Saiyan 2 do we hear reactions of each other's power.

Because Super Saiyan was an old transformation. No reason to get excited about it when everyone knew they had SSJ2 respectively...

 

[Kyo]

I think base correlates with ssj2 due to Vegeta's statement on the plane, so Yakon should take it.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

I think base correlates with ssj2 due to Vegeta's statement on the plane, so Yakon should take it.

he said if every1 stays the same his position doesn't change either-way

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[p123]

In the anime Goku is clearly Yakkon's superior. And Vegeta makes a comment that he was able to further push through the Super Saiyan limits.

I think Goku isn't showing his full power. It's a tough situation.

 

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I don't think so. I think Goku and Vegeta show similar powers up until the SSJ2 burst. I don't think Vegeta can discern that Goku is his superior until then.

I think it's implied that Goku = Vegeta up to that point.

Vegeta probably intended to take down Goku with SSJ2. But, when he saw Goku also has SSJ2, he realized
Goku is superior.

 

[SSJ2]

In the anime Goku is clearly Yakkon's superior. And Vegeta makes a comment that he was able to further push through the Super Saiyan limits.

I think Goku isn't showing his full power. It's a tough situation.

Agreed that Goku is slightly suppressed, but the manga shows a very close battle if i recall correctly.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

In the anime Goku is clearly Yakkon's superior. And Vegeta makes a comment that he was able to further push through the Super Saiyan limits.

I think Goku isn't showing his full power. It's a tough situation.

gohan says if the 2 of them fight together they'd be able to win without becoming super-saiyans

if goku in base could already defeat yakon

where is that???