Goku doesn't have to be at full Chi when he fought Innocent Boo

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A common misconception is that Goku's new transformation, SSj3, made it impossible him to control it properly. However, some actual facts are:

a) During the bout' with Kid Boo, Goku is increasing his Chi, meaning he wasn't at full power when he actually fought Kid Boo because he was showing off and enjoying the fight.
b) Goku has control of Chi, even at Super Saiyan 3.
c) Goku said that using Super Saiyan 3 in a dead body was no problem at all. If Goku is able to somewhat control his Chi in a living body, than doing it in a dead body is entirely possible.

So no, he doesn't have to be at full Chi against Innocent Boo.
 

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There's no point in the entire buu saga where goku is fighting at full power with SSJ3. He doesn't go all out against fat buu, and he can't against kid buu.
 

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Goku was able to control his Chi and gather it in a live body. He remarks using Ssj3 as no problem at all in a dead body.

Chi control is definitely implied.
 

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So, Tosh, if i got it right, you go with the FPSSJ3 theory? That Goku has a FPSSJ3 power he never showed? This
could support very well the Goku>Super Buu theory; Goku knew Super Buu wouldn't wait for him to raise his power
for one minute, that's why he said ''he'll kill us if we go out like this''.
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
So, Tosh, if i got it right, you go with the FPSSJ3 theory? That Goku has a FPSSJ3 power he never showed? This
could support very well the Goku>Super Buu theory; Goku knew Super Buu wouldn't wait for him to raise his power
for one minute, that's why he said ''he'll kill us if we go out like this''.
You're gonna embrace Gokuism? :bordoga
 

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withheldforprivacy said:
So, Tosh, if i got it right, you go with the FPSSJ3 theory? That Goku has a FPSSJ3 power he never showed? This
could support very well the Goku>Super Buu theory; Goku knew Super Buu wouldn't wait for him to raise his power
for one minute, that's why he said ''he'll kill us if we go out like this''.
Well Goku showed Chi control at SSj3 against Kid Boo.

a) He wasn't fighting at his maximum against Kid Boo because he was showing off.
b) He tries to power up to his maximum Chi against Kid Boo to obliterate him.
c) Goku realizes that using SSj3 in a living body is too hard to control Chi.
d) Goku says using SSj3 in a dead body was no problem.

Conclusion: Goku doesn't have to be at full Chi when he fought Innocent Boo.
 

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Tosh said:
I'd wish you'd suck my dick more.
dafuq? you got dick?

Anyway, Goku was showing off which mean that he could gather enough energy to kill Boo but instead he used all his ki to fight longer.
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
Tosh said:
I'd wish you'd suck my dick more.
dafuq? you got dick?

Anyway, Goku was showing off which mean that he could gather enough energy to kill Boo but instead he used all his ki to fight longer.
I was insulting him for being rude.

Actually, Goku wasn't at full Chi and didn't use all of it to fight him. He was trying to gather his Chi to maximum but didn't have the time.
 

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So Goku saying he better goes all out against Pure Boo because if he doesn't the universe is doom if they lose? Make sense....

Goku told Fat Boo he is sorry for making him wait since he is not use to the form. He could be at full power, but not using full effort.
 

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So Goku saying he better goes all out against Pure Boo because if he doesn't the universe is doom if they lose? Make sense....
One step ahead you already mate.

Goku said he was going to go full throttle against Pure Boo before Vegeta's admission to using Super Saiyan 3. Goku asks if it's okay to use it because Vegeta might not get his turn. So the full throttle reference is obviously regarding SSj2.

Once Goku uses Super Saiyan 3 at Vegeta's consent, he begins to show off with the transformation and has been trying to find an opportune moment to gather his Chi, but he's unable to. So no, he didn't use his full Chi. That's not what the story tells us.

Goku told Fat Boo he is sorry for making him wait since he is not use to the form. He could be at full power, but not using full effort.
Goku said using SSj3 in a dead body was no problem at all. So that renders your 'he's not used to the form' argument useless.

Vegeta is able to gauge strength based on movements, he's said so before. Despite seeing Goku Ssj3 from the otherworld, he's dumbfounded by how much stronger Goku is than he expected.

Therefore the implications and statements suggest Goku wasn't use full Chi against Innocent Boo.
 

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Tosh said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Tosh said:
I'd wish you'd suck my dick more.
dafuq? you got dick?

Anyway, Goku was showing off which mean that he could gather enough energy to kill Boo but instead he used all his ki to fight longer.
I was insulting him for being rude.

Actually, Goku wasn't at full Chi and didn't use all of it to fight him. He was trying to gather his Chi to maximum but didn't have the time.
Still doesn't mean that he was holding back against Fat Boo.
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
Tosh said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
dafuq? you got dick?

Anyway, Goku was showing off which mean that he could gather enough energy to kill Boo but instead he used all his ki to fight longer.
I was insulting him for being rude.

Actually, Goku wasn't at full Chi and didn't use all of it to fight him. He was trying to gather his Chi to maximum but didn't have the time.
Still doesn't mean that he was holding back against Fat Boo.
Vegeta has shown the ability to determine how strong someone is based on their movements. He's done this with Dabura and Android 19, yet, after seeing Goku from the other world, he's completely blown away from Goku's fighting ability against Kid Boo, yet this isn't even his full Chi.

So yes, it does prove he did.
:nice
 

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Tosh said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Tosh said:
I was insulting him for being rude.

Actually, Goku wasn't at full Chi and didn't use all of it to fight him. He was trying to gather his Chi to maximum but didn't have the time.
Still doesn't mean that he was holding back against Fat Boo.
Vegeta has shown the ability to determine how strong someone is based on their movements. He's done this with Dabura and Android 19, yet, after seeing Goku from the other world, he's completely blown away from Goku's fighting ability against Kid Boo, yet this isn't even his full Chi.

So yes, it does prove he did.
:nice
Vegeta never saw the fight since he had no body yet.
 

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Fearless Saiyajin said:
Tosh said:
Vegeta: I saw it from the afterlife.
but he can't sense him.
Jesus fuck!
:wat .... :facepalm2

I'll just quote myself, I'm too lazy to retype all this:

Vegeta has shown the ability to determine how strong someone is based on their movements. He's done this with Dabura and Android 19, yet, after seeing Goku from the other world, he's completely blown away from Goku's fighting ability against Kid Boo, yet this isn't even his full Chi.
He doesn't need to sense him.
:Krillin
 

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Tosh said:
Fearless Saiyajin said:
Tosh said:
Vegeta: I saw it from the afterlife.
but he can't sense him.
Jesus fuck!
:wat .... :facepalm2

I'll just quote myself, I'm too lazy to retype all this:

Vegeta has shown the ability to determine how strong someone is based on their movements. He's done this with Dabura and Android 19, yet, after seeing Goku from the other world, he's completely blown away from Goku's fighting ability against Kid Boo, yet this isn't even his full Chi.
He doesn't need to sense him.
:Krillin
There's a difference though....

#19 and Dabura are weaker than him hence he can sense them. By your logic, Vegeta knew how strong Cell was while fighting Goku lol.
 

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He based his estimates on their movements, not what he sensed.

He knew how strong Cell currently was based on what he saw Cell currently displaying. But that's not the same as saying he knows how strong he could get.

And Goku completely blows him away. So Goku is fighting to a higher degree against Kid Boo than he was against Innocent Boo, yet that's not his full Chi.

What more do you want?
 

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