Good Boo and Vegeta analysis

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I'm going to omit certain arguments that you have because they are included below.

No. You argued that Mr. Boo's tactics didn't succeed in doing anything worthwhile. I said he succeeded in protecting Hercule, which was his basis for getting into the fight in the first place:

Mr.Boo was about to be killed. He failed in his objective.

Later during their fight:

Boo: Uh oh, it looks like I can't win.

So he was trying to win the entire time. I'm not saying that protecting Hercule wasn't a part of his priorities, but you're arguing that it was the only one.

It wasn't.

And yet Goku said it was thanks to Mr. Boo and Hercule that they weren't killed. Apparently Goku disagrees with you on Mr. Boo being useless.

Vegeta bought more then enough time for Goku to be capable of unleashing a fully powered Kamehameha wave. Had he been in a dead body:

Goku: While I was dead it was no problem at all, but it seems being in a live body is too difficult!

They would have succeeded without Mr.Boo and Hercule. But Goku was taken completely off guard due to Super Saiyan 3s limitations. Limitations that forced him to believe that he shouldn't use them in a living body, but he did so anyways because he had no choice.

So that statement on it's own doesn't prove that Mr.Boo is superior to Vegeta. All it proves is that they were the next best thing after Vegeta bought more time then expected. Even under the merits of your argument, you would have to argue that Hercule is also as powerful as Vegeta, he isn't.

Neither does Vegeta blowing a standing still Kid Boo who drew out his regeneration long enough to do it behind Vegeta. Thank you for agreeing.

Like Vegeta blowing apart Kid Boo. What does Goku say when Boo is drawing out his regeneration? He says all of his attacks are useless and Boo continues to come back good as new. What this means is blowing Boo apart means jack shit.

Goku and Vegeta succeeded in doing so, Good Boo didn't.

He didn't have the battle power.

All he was capable of doing was continually coming back from Boo's physical attacks.

Then you need to actually look at it again. He attacked Mr. Boo while enraged. The artwork disagrees with you. He laughed the entire time he whooped Vegeta's ass.

Kid Boo wasn't enraged. He does random things and screams randomly. It doesn't signal a power-up.

He screamed when he initially appeared on Earth for no reason. So this doesn't prove jack.

Sure. And he choked Vegeta until he dropped out of Super Saiyan 2.

It doesn't change the fact that he tooled him in the same way Vegetto tooled Boohan. Tie this in with the logic above and you'll see how wrong you are.

That's actually completely wrong. Mr. Boo started fighting Kid Boo when Goku was still in Super Saiyan 3, and the beatdown continued until Vegeta tried to stall Boo for the 2nd time. It's a joke to even compare their beatdowns when one was far longer than the other.

Both Vegeta and Good Boo landed only two blows by the time Boo's regeneration became a factor.

They are definitely comparable. But Vegeta had the Ki to be more capable.

You've arbitrarily added that spin. Kid Boo didn't appear to be all that strong to Vegeta, but is said to be more powerful than he ever imagined after fighting Goku for awhile. That means Kid Boo had to up his power to fight Goku, who was able to blow him apart. Boo is Boo. His durability doesn't just change because of his effort. The Kamikaze Ghosts hurt Boo because they were powerful. This is exactly why he tries to use the technique against Vegito. Had it been something he could just ignore when serious, then he wouldn't have thought it'd matter against Vegito.

The Kamikaze Ghosts hurt Boo prior to when he had to exert full force to escape the Rosat. Afterwards, while fighting Gotenks SSj3, he doesn't get blown apart unless he's taken off guard, especially if he's involved in a serious fight or someone is significantly more powerful then him.

It was clearly a good hit because it repelled him when he tried to continue with his relentless attack on Mr. Boo. Vegeta couldn't land any hits on Boo in close quarters. That means he was pretty useless.

Mr.Boo landed one head-butt, which did nothing. Vegeta's Ki blasts were superior to anything Boo did.

It was clearly a good hit because it repelled him when he tried to continue with his relentless attack on Mr. Boo. Vegeta couldn't land any hits on Boo in close quarters. That means he was pretty useless.

It definitely was, because shortly after, he's tooling Boo with his legs. He was clearly not taking the fight seriously at all.

Based on what? Vegeta got knocked down right after blowing Boo apart. He was nowhere close to being as effective as Mr. Boo, who was one of the reasons why they stopped Boo to begin with. Had he not been keeping Kid Boo's attention the entire time, he would've been noticed the Genki-Dama. So, saying Mr. Boo wasn't effective overall is wrong.

An off guarded attack? That's pretty damn powerful. Especially when Vegeta' body type can't instantly bounce back from physical attacks the way Boo can. That and Vegeta was still capable of blasting Boo into nothingness.

Because Vegeta's blasts were capable of blasting Boo into a million tiny shards. Had Vegeta SSj2 hit Good Boo with that, what do you think would of happened? He would of died. It's clear there is a massive difference between Good Boo and Kid Boo's level of regeneration. When Good Boo regenerates, his Ki is immediately noted as decreasing.

Further-more, because Good Boo was uncapable of blast Boo into a million shards, I'm going to determine that he was incapable of, otherwise he would have.

Neither Goku, Vegeta or Good Boo performed any lasting damage on Boo. Not once. He tooled all 3 of them. The only effective thing against Boo was the Genki Dama. In no scenario beforehand was he implied to be anywhere close to his full battle power.

Pure Boo is pissed once Good Boo wakes up. The last time we saw two Majin's stare each other down, they immediately tried to kill each other. Neither Boo was aware which one was stronger until they actually fought and the narrator informs us that Good Boo recognized how inferior he was. This is the exact same situation, so strength is not the relevant factor as to why Pure Boo was mad.

I think it should be fairly clear that Vegeta holds the edge in terms of raw battle power, with Good Boo holding an even greater edge due to his anatomy.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Mr.Boo was about to be killed. He failed in his objective.

If he failed, then Hercule wouldn't have survived. He told Kid Boo to stop hurting Hercule, then proceeded to to fight and take his attention away from Hercule.

So he was trying to win the entire time. I'm not saying that protecting Hercule wasn't a part of his priorities, but you're arguing that it was the only one.

It wasn't.

It was his primary focus. He didn't like Kid Boo because he was hurting Hercule, hence why he stepped in. None of them were able to stop Kid Boo under normal circumstances, so you could say all of them failed in that regard. Goku nearly lost with the Genki-Dama because they didn't factor in Goku's own strength in unleashing it. Saying Mr. Boo failed is not a slight against his performance. All of them did terribly.

They would have succeeded without Mr.Boo and Hercule. But Goku was taken completely off guard due to Super Saiyan 3s limitations. Limitations that forced him to believe that he shouldn't use them in a living body, but he did so anyways because he had no choice.

But we're not talking about hypothetical's. Goku overestimated his Super Saiyan 3 and required both Mr. Boo and Hercule to defeat Kid Boo. Without those two, Boo would've won the battle. That's what happened.

So that statement on it's own doesn't prove that Mr.Boo is superior to Vegeta. All it proves is that they were the next best thing after Vegeta bought more time then expected. Even under the merits of your argument, you would have to argue that Hercule is also as powerful as Vegeta, he isn't.

Not at all. Hercule convinced the people to give their energy to the Genki-Dama while Mr. Boo indirectly diverted Kid Boo's attention away from the Genki-Dama. My argument doesn't require Hercule to be stronger than Vegeta unless you try really hard to ignore what he actually did.

Goku and Vegeta succeeded in doing so, Good Boo didn't.

He blew Kid Boo apart with a single blast. That shows that his power is already big enough. If one blast can do it, multiple blasts would blow him apart. It's a matter of circumstance here, not Mr. Boo's inability to do it.

He didn't have the battle power.

Based on absolutely nothing. A Chi-blast from Mr. Boo can blow Kid Boo apart, so he can blow Kid Boo into pieces with a couple dozen more if Kid Boo stands there and allows it.

All he was capable of doing was continually coming back from Boo's physical attacks.

Which is his trait as a Boo. Using that against him to try and prove a point is rather disingenuous. Still did better in close quarters than Vegeta ever did.

Kid Boo wasn't enraged. He does random things and screams randomly. It doesn't signal a power-up.

He was enraged when Mr. Boo tried to blindside him. The only other time he got pissed was when he saw the Genki-Dama.

He screamed when he initially appeared on Earth for no reason. So this doesn't prove jack.

Show me where he attacked anyone else in an enraged state.

It doesn't change the fact that he tooled him in the same way Vegetto tooled Boohan. Tie this in with the logic above and you'll see how wrong you are.

This doesn't change the fact that Vegeta was down for good without Kid Boo ever resorting to a Chi-blast. How many hits did Vegeta land when Kid Boo was in his face? None.

Both Vegeta and Good Boo landed only two blows by the time Boo's regeneration became a factor.

Mr. Boo landed two attacks and slammed Kid Boo to the ground before nearly turning him into candy. The performances are not comparable whatsoever.

They are definitely comparable. But Vegeta had the Ki to be more capable.

No, they certainly are not. The best Vegeta could do is blast apart a Boo that simply let him. Kid Boo didn't let Mr. Boo headbutt him because he was trying to continue on with his attack.

Goku's opening KMH did nearly the same damage as Vegeta's blast. Mr. Boo's single Chi-blast blew apart of his body off. All of them can blow Boo apart and it has nothing to do with Vegeta's having more power than Mr. Boo. It has everything to do with Boo being someone who can easily get blown apart.

The Kamikaze Ghosts hurt Boo prior to when he had to exert full force to escape the Rosat. Afterwards, while fighting Gotenks SSj3, he doesn't get blown apart unless he's taken off guard, especially if he's involved in a serious fight or someone is significantly more powerful then him.

The Ghosts hurt Boo because they were powerful. This is his entire reason for using it against Vegito in the first place. He knows Vegito is way beyond his power, so he resorts to this technique because he believes it'll make a difference. It's an attack that can damage a much stronger opponent. That didn't suddenly change.

Mr.Boo landed one head-butt, which did nothing. Vegeta's Ki blasts were superior to anything Boo did.

Vegeta's Chi-blasts were useless. Blowing up Boo isn't much of a feat. Allowing himself to get blown up makes it even more worthless. Kid Boo didn't sit there and let Mr. Boo headbutt him. It was clearly used as a counterattack to stop Kid Boo as he was attacking Mr. Boo.

It definitely was, because shortly after, he's tooling Boo with his legs. He was clearly not taking the fight seriously at all.

This didn't happen until the fight had already been going on for awhile. Kid Boo tooled Vegeta with a bunch of melee attacks without ever resorting to using any Chi-blasts. He attacked Mr. Boo in a variety of ways, draining his power in the process.

An off guarded attack? That's pretty damn powerful. Especially when Vegeta' body type can't instantly bounce back from physical attacks the way Boo can. That and Vegeta was still capable of blasting Boo into nothingness.

Alright, he wasn't taken by surprise as much as you think. He sensed Kid Boo right when he regenerated behind him before he got hit. Outside of that, he just straight-up bodied Vegeta in close quarters and was about to finish him off before Hercule got Kid Boo's attention. How did he blast him into nothingness? With countless Chi-blasts. Did Kid Boo bother to dodge them? Nope. Does this mean anything? Hell no.

Because Vegeta's blasts were capable of blasting Boo into a million tiny shards. Had Vegeta SSj2 hit Good Boo with that, what do you think would of happened? He would of died. It's clear there is a massive difference between Good Boo and Kid Boo's level of regeneration. When Good Boo regenerates, his Ki is immediately noted as decreasing.

Lol, come on. You're really overrating Vegeta's power now. Kid Boo's blast through Mr. Boo would naturally be way beyond anything Vegeta could ever do, yet that didn't stop him from regenerating from it. Mr. Boo would've regenerated from Vegeta's attack like it was nothing. Also, that bit about Mr. Boo's regeneration was never stated. After the two had been fighting for a good while, we have Vegeta saying Mr. Boo's power is beginning to go down. That's because he was receiving a prolonged ass kicking from someone way above him, not because he suddenly developed Namekian styled regeneration

Further-more, because Good Boo was uncapable of blast Boo into a million shards, I'm going to determine that he was incapable of, otherwise he would have.

Could Gohan blow apart Super Boo? Yes. Did he try? No. Does this mean he couldn't? No. Same applies here. Mr. Boo can blow Kid Boo apart with a single Chi-blast. Dozens of Chi-blasts have more damaging capabilities than a single one, but he didn't try it. This is not the same as believing it's unachievable. You're just being stubborn, really.

Neither Goku, Vegeta or Good Boo performed any lasting damage on Boo. Not once. He tooled all 3 of them. The only effective thing against Boo was the Genki Dama. In no scenario beforehand was he implied to be anywhere close to his full battle power.

Except the part where he fought Goku and upped his power enough for Vegeta to sense the drastic change in power. Why would he increase his power if Goku was nothing to him? Because Goku was actually shown to be on his level. Kid Boo was in far better condition than Goku due to his unique abilities, not his power. Kid Boo's ability to catch the Genki-Dama is derived from Goku's inability to unleash the attack at its best. No one made any mention of Kid Boo's power spiking, so we have no reason to assume it ever happened.

Pure Boo is pissed once Good Boo wakes up. The last time we saw two Majin's stare each other down, they immediately tried to kill each other. Neither Boo was aware which one was stronger until they actually fought and the narrator informs us that Good Boo recognized how inferior he was. This is the exact same situation, so strength is not the relevant factor as to why Pure Boo was mad.

Kid Boo is pissed once he sees that Mr. Boo was the one who nearly blindsided him with a blast. That prompted him to attack him outright. Kid Boo eventually went back to being all smiles during his domination, so Mr. Boo being another Boo obviously wasn't a big deal.

I think it should be fairly clear that Vegeta holds the edge in terms of raw battle power, with Good Boo holding an even greater edge due to his anatomy.

Kid Boo standing there so Vegeta can blast him shows no edge in power. It doesn't mean anything.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Kid Boo was very pissed when Hercule and Vegeta were fighting him, it's still not the same as powering up or putting more effort into something. The only time he's shown to put maximum effort into any battle was when he tried to stop the Genki Dama. This resembles when Super Boo had to escape from the Rosat and Gotenks had to transform into Super Saiyan 3 to perform the same feat, this infers that a battle power increased to it's maximum potential. At no time before-hand were either Kid Boo or Super Boo implied to be at that thresh-hold of power.

Vegeta completely eviscerated Pure Boo's body into nothingness, while Good Boo was unable to do the same. Vegeta's power-output was greater then Good Boo's, but Boo's wacky body allowed him to keep coming back.

Very pissed against Vegeta? Id think so...

Boo was enjoying lol. ANd the nextfight

 

[Papasmurf]

Smirking and toying with base Vegeta so much he didn't keel over in the first hit? Seems pretty pissed

 

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If he failed, then Hercule wouldn't have survived. He told Kid Boo to stop hurting Hercule, then proceeded to to fight and take his attention away from Hercule.

Had the fight progressed, Mr.Boo would of certainly have been killed trying to protect Hercule. Had Hercule not intervened and had Kid Boo not seen the Genki Dama, Mr.Boo would have been killed.

was his primary focus. He didn't like Kid Boo because he was hurting Hercule, hence why he stepped in. None of them were able to stop Kid Boo under normal circumstances, so you could say all of them failed in that regard. Goku nearly lost with the Genki-Dama because they didn't factor in Goku's own strength in unleashing it. Saying Mr. Boo failed is not a slight against his performance. All of them did terribly.

They all did terrible and Mr.Boo tooled all 3 of them, one after the other. Trying to make a distinction between Mr.Boo and Vegeta is heresay.

But we're not talking about hypothetical's. Goku overestimated his Super Saiyan 3 and required both Mr. Boo and Hercule to defeat Kid Boo. Without those two, Boo would've won the battle. That's what happened.

The fact remains that if Goku was in a dead body and wasn't taken off guard by the transformations limitations, he would have certainly won all by himself.

Not at all. Hercule convinced the people to give their energy to the Genki-Dama while Mr. Boo indirectly diverted Kid Boo's attention away from the Genki-Dama. My argument doesn't require Hercule to be stronger than Vegeta unless you try really hard to ignore what he actually did.

It still doesn't take from the fact that Goku SSj3 would have won single handidly if he was fighting in a dead body. This much is obvious from what was depicted.

He blew Kid Boo apart with a single blast. That shows that his power is already big enough. If one blast can do it, multiple blasts would blow him apart. It's a matter of circumstance here, not Mr. Boo's inability to do it.

Vegeta was also capable of doing that, but he was also more capable because he blow Pure Boo to smithereens. Mr.Boo did nothing close to that besides getting tooled with for a few chapters.

Based on absolutely nothing. A Chi-blast from Mr. Boo can blow Kid Boo apart, so he can blow Kid Boo into pieces with a couple dozen more if Kid Boo stands there and allows it.

It's based on the fact that Mr.Boo never accomplished the same feat as Vegeta.

All Mr.Boo managed to do was get tooled in a similar fashion as Boohan did against Vegetto. Kid Boo toyed with him for a while longer and Boo's body can take more of a beating, so what? Vegeta proved he was more capable of doing more damage.

Which is his trait as a Boo. Using that against him to try and prove a point is rather disingenuous. Still did better in close quarters than Vegeta ever did.

Vegeta was taken off guard completely once he got struck with a blow to the back of his head. And because of his body type, that would do more damage to him then it would to Boo. Whereas Pure Boo toyed with Mr.Boo for the entire duration of their fight. He went so far as to use his legs. That hardly equates to performing better when Vegeta managed to actually get something done during his initial assault.

He was enraged when Mr. Boo tried to blindside him. The only other time he got pissed was when he saw the Genki-Dama.

He wasn't enraged at all. He was annoyed that Boo was awaken, but that was all.

Saying he was enraged is like saying he was like Gohan was against Radditz.

Straight bullshit.

Show me where he attacked anyone else in an enraged state.

The only time Majin Boo shows an enraged state is while he is in his Innocent Boo form. In no other form is an 'enraged' stated depicted. This is a reach on your part. A few pages later, Pure Boo is toying with Good Boo and having fun.

This doesn't change the fact that Vegeta was down for good without Kid Boo ever resorting to a Chi-blast. How many hits did Vegeta land when Kid Boo was in his face? None.

From a blow to the back of his head. Their body types are completely different and this is something that you should factor in besides you look at things at face value.

Vegeta managed to land 2 attacks and in one of them, he succeeded in blowing Boo completely apart, and in the other he blew a portion of Boo off.
Mr.Boo managed to land 3 attacks and in one of them he only succeeded in blowing a portion of Boo off.

Vegeta carries the edge in power, it should be obvious. Boo's body type allows him to keep fighting for a longer duration.

Mr. Boo landed two attacks and slammed Kid Boo to the ground before nearly turning him into candy. The performances are not comparable whatsoever.

Kid Boo dodged Mr.Boo's candy attack with a massive smile on his face. You're jumping to conclusions in order to try to power up Mr.Boo. This is a fallacy. In no way whatsoever did Mr.Boo manage to do anything to Kid Boo.

Goku was actually impressed with Vegeta's performance, the same cannot be said about Mr.Boo.

No, they certainly are not. The best Vegeta could do is blast apart a Boo that simply let him. Kid Boo didn't let Mr. Boo headbutt him because he was trying to continue on with his attack.

Goku's opening KMH did nearly the same damage as Vegeta's blast. Mr. Boo's single Chi-blast blew apart of his body off. All of them can blow Boo apart and it has nothing to do with Vegeta's having more power than Mr. Boo. It has everything to do with Boo being someone who can easily get blown apart.

All Mr.Boo manage to do was the same thing that Gotenks did against Super Boo, but in this scenario, it was much less effective. This leaves more to be desired. And until I see a scan where Mr.Boo actually destroys Pure Boo completely, I don't see how he has the Ki energy to do the damage.

The Ghosts hurt Boo because they were powerful. This is his entire reason for using it against Vegito in the first place. He knows Vegito is way beyond his power, so he resorts to this technique because he believes it'll make a difference. It's an attack that can damage a much stronger opponent. That didn't suddenly change.

Actually the Ghosts hurt Boo because he was taken off guard.

When Boo is fighting seriously, he never gets blown apart. Super Boo vs Gotenks depicts this as does Bootenks vs Ultimate Gohan. In every other scenario, Boo either had a massive advantage that he didn't have to worry, or his opposistion was just that much stronger.

Vegeta's Chi-blasts were useless. Blowing up Boo isn't much of a feat. Allowing himself to get blown up makes it even more worthless. Kid Boo didn't sit there and let Mr. Boo headbutt him. It was clearly used as a counterattack to stop Kid Boo as he was attacking Mr. Boo.

His Ki blasts were much more effective then anything Mr.Boo did.

All Mr.Boo did was the same thing Gotenks did to Super Boo, this is not a reflection of him being stronger then Vegeta, it's simply basics physics and Mr.Boo attacking Boo while Boo is simultaneously charging him. There's nothing significant about it.

Pure Boo was mercilessly toying with Mr.Boo during the entire duration of their fight. Without his regenerative capabilities, Mr.Boo would have died on several occasions. Vegeta didn't. He never allowed himself to be put in that position until Boo managed to get ahold of him.

This didn't happen until the fight had already been going on for awhile. Kid Boo tooled Vegeta with a bunch of melee attacks without ever resorting to using any Chi-blasts. He attacked Mr. Boo in a variety of ways, draining his power in the process.

The fight only occurred for a few scans before that happened. Even before that, Pure Boo was still tooling him.

Mr.Boo's Ki isn't noted to decrease up until a few chapters after Pure Boo uses his legs. So that argument is heresy.

Alright, he wasn't taken by surprise as much as you think. He sensed Kid Boo right when he regenerated behind him before he got hit. Outside of that, he just straight-up bodied Vegeta in close quarters and was about to finish him off before Hercule got Kid Boo's attention. How did he blast him into nothingness? With countless Chi-blasts. Did Kid Boo bother to dodge them? Nope. Does this mean anything? Hell no.

Vegeta never had time to react and got his with a blow to the back of his head. His body type would make this type of attack much more damaging. Whereas Boo can just instantly recover from it. It's not a reflection of power. Both Vegeta and Boo were outclassed to a huge degree, Mr.Boo got tooled with even more so.

But Vegeta actually got something done, Mr.Boo didn't.

Lol, come on. You're really overrating Vegeta's power now. Kid Boo's blast through Mr. Boo would naturally be way beyond anything Vegeta could ever do, yet that didn't stop him from regenerating from it. Mr. Boo would've regenerated from Vegeta's attack like it was nothing. Also, that bit about Mr. Boo's regeneration was never stated. After the two had been fighting for a good while, we have Vegeta saying Mr. Boo's power is beginning to go down. That's because he was receiving a prolonged ass kicking from someone way above him, not because he suddenly developed Namekian styled regeneration

If Vegeta was capable of blasting Pure Boo into a million tiny shards, then he most certainly could to Mr. Boo. Had the two Boo's switched positions, Mr.Boo doesn't have the regenerative capabilities of Pure Boo and certainly would have died.

Could Gohan blow apart Super Boo? Yes. Did he try? No. Does this mean he couldn't? No. Same applies here. Mr. Boo can blow Kid Boo apart with a single Chi-blast. Dozens of Chi-blasts have more damaging capabilities than a single one, but he didn't try it. This is not the same as believing it's unachievable. You're just being stubborn, really.

Well the burden of proof lies on you to show Mr.Boo performing at the same level of Vegeta. The evidence doesn't exist. What Toriyama has shown us is that Mr.Boo is obviously depicted as the more powerful fighter with Mr.Boo's body type carrying the edge.

Except the part where he fought Goku and upped his power enough for Vegeta to sense the drastic change in power. Why would he increase his power if Goku was nothing to him? Because Goku was actually shown to be on his level. Kid Boo was in far better condition than Goku due to his unique abilities, not his power. Kid Boo's ability to catch the Genki-Dama is derived from Goku's inability to unleash the attack at its best. No one made any mention of Kid Boo's power spiking, so we have no reason to assume it ever happened.

Kid Boo never went all out against any 3 of them. The only effective thing against him was the Genki Dama. Pure Boo's musles are buldging out and his veins are popping out. He's putting more effort into that then he was with any 3 fighters.

Super Boo looks exactly the same when he escaped from the Rosat. Gotenks SSj Post was able to effectively do something against him here and there, so obviously Super Boo is somewhat stronger then Gotenks SSj Post initially. But because Gotenks had to increase his battle power by 8 times, then the same can be said for Super Boo and that the artwork shows that Super Boo had to go full throttle to escape. The same can be said for Kid Boo.

Now you're being stubborn.

Kid Boo is pissed once he sees that Mr. Boo was the one who nearly blindsided him with a blast. That prompted him to attack him outright. Kid Boo eventually went back to being all smiles during his domination, so Mr. Boo being another Boo obviously wasn't a big deal.

Pure Boo was pissed once Good Boo woke up. He wasn't beforehand. But that's not the same as saying he was 'enraged', like Innocent Boo was. That's a reach on your part.

Mr.Boo's power isn't noted as decreasing until nearly the end of the fight:

Yet all this happened:

The only reason Good Boo flipped him over is because he was busy hitting Hercule. So that means that both Vegeta and Mr.Boo only managed to hit Kid Boo twice successfully on their own. Yet Vegeta's feats are still more impressive.

All of this occurs before his Ki is stated to have decreased. Therefore this all occurred while Mr.Boo was at full power. And because he was getting tooled as bad as Vegeta was, it's safe to determine that Pure Boo was simply playing around with Mr.Boo the entire time and was never serious on one occasion. Perhaps he was annoyed, sure, but to argue that he was 'enraged' is simply taking it a step too far. Mr.Boo was only able to land 2 hits. A head-butt and a Ki blast. The third time only occurred because Pure Boo struck Mr.Satan, so that doesn't count. This means that both Mr.Boo and Vegeta both struck Pure Boo twice, but Vegeta's attacks were more capable. All Mr.Boo managed to do was last longer due to his body type and Pure Boo messing around with him.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Did Vegeta hit Pure Boo by his fits and kicks?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Had the fight progressed, Mr.Boo would of certainly have been killed trying to protect Hercule. Had Hercule not intervened and had Kid Boo not seen the Genki Dama, Mr.Boo would have been killed.

It progressed long enough for Mr. Boo to divert Kid Boo's attention away from Hercule, though. Had Mr. Boo not stepped in, Hercule would've never been around to convince the humans to give their energy. There would've been no Genki-Dama.

They all did terrible and Mr.Boo tooled all 3 of them, one after the other. Trying to make a distinction between Mr.Boo and Vegeta is heresay.

I don't think you know what hearsay means. You started by saying Mr. Boo's tactics were shit to Vegeta's, but it's clear that this obviously isn't true. Continuously shooting into one direction left Vegeta wide open. This is a tactic he's displayed all throughout the series, so there's nothing great about it.

The fact remains that if Goku was in a dead body and wasn't taken off guard by the transformations limitations, he would have certainly won all by himself.

It wasn't unexpected. Goku even said Super Saiyan 3 is a form not meant for the living world. He just overestimated himself (and his form) taking on Kid Boo without merging. He basically states this.

It still doesn't take from the fact that Goku SSj3 would have won single handidly if he was fighting in a dead body. This much is obvious from what was depicted.

That's nice and all, but he didn't. Had Krillin threw a Kienzan at a blinded Freeza, the Freeza saga would've likely been over, too. He overestimated his Super Saiyan 3 and nearly lost because of it. That's what we see.

Vegeta was also capable of doing that, but he was also more capable because he blow Pure Boo to smithereens. Mr.Boo did nothing close to that besides getting tooled with for a few chapters.

Yeah, because he never tried. Mr. Boo put up a better fight in close quarters than Vegeta did. All Vegeta did was blast apart a standing still Boo. That says nothing about his power because it was intentional. Kid Boo didn't intend to get head-butted or slammed on the floor.

It's based on the fact that Mr.Boo never accomplished the same feat as Vegeta.

And Vegeta couldn't land a single hit on Kid Boo in close quarters. Guess who did?

All Mr.Boo managed to do was get tooled in a similar fashion as Boohan did against Vegetto. Kid Boo toyed with him for a while longer and Boo's body can take more of a beating, so what? Vegeta proved he was more capable of doing more damage.

All Vegeta managed to do was blast a Boo that didn't care enough to dodge his attack. So what? Vegeta proved he couldn't land a hit on Boo when he was in his face while Mr. Boo could. That alone is more impressive than anything Vegeta did.

Vegeta was taken off guard completely once he got struck with a blow to the back of his head. And because of his body type, that would do more damage to him then it would to Boo. Whereas Pure Boo toyed with Mr.Boo for the entire duration of their fight. He went so far as to use his legs. That hardly equates to performing better when Vegeta managed to actually get something done during his initial assault.

Kid Boo had no problem beating Vegeta's ass when he was standing right in front of him, so it's not like he needed to hit him from behind. Btw, that awesome feat of Vegeta lead to him being knocked down from behind to begin with. How was this effective again?

He wasn't enraged at all. He was annoyed that Boo was awaken, but that was all.

Nope. He was clearly enraged. His reaction is the same as it was when he saw the Genki-Dama.

Saying he was enraged is like saying he was like Gohan was against Radditz.

Boo's display rage all throughout the Boo saga. Not sure what Gohan and Raditz have to do with anything.

Straight bullshit.

Like Vegeta's awesome feat of blasting a standing still Boo which lead to him being knocked on his ass is.

The only time Majin Boo shows an enraged state is while he is in his Innocent Boo form. In no other form is an 'enraged' stated depicted.

Super Boo displayed rage countless times throughout the saga. Gohan Boo did the same when Vegito was dominating him. Looks like you're wrong here.

This is a reach on your part. A few pages later, Pure Boo is toying with Good Boo and having fun.

There's no reach. It's shown. Just because he reverted back to smiling doesn't change the fact that he was pissed at Mr. Boo nearly blindsiding him.

From a blow to the back of his head. Their body types are completely different and this is something that you should factor in besides you look at things at face value.

How does his body type change the fact that he could land a hit in close quarters while Vegeta couldn't? If someone way stronger than Boo hits him, it hurts him regardless. Gohan displays this after beating on Super Boo. His body type didn't actually stop him from feeling the weight of Gohan's attacks.

You tell me to factor in Boo's body type, yet you have no issue completely disregarding that the two attacked Boo differently. Even going as far to say Mr. Boo wouldn't be able to blow Kid Boo apart if he did the same thing Vegeta did.

Vegeta managed to land 2 attacks and in one of them, he succeeded in blowing Boo completely apart, and in the other he blew a portion of Boo off.

Which left him wide open to Kid Boo's attack from behind. In other words, he really did nothing but hit a standing still Boo.

Mr.Boo managed to land 3 attacks and in one of them he only succeeded in blowing a portion of Boo off.

He countered Kid Boo when he tried to continue on with his attack, he blasted Boo apart, and he slammed Boo down when he was choking him. Far better than anything Vegeta ever did.

Vegeta carries the edge in power, it should be obvious. Boo's body type allows him to keep fighting for a longer duration.

Good thing it isn't. Mr. Boo fought better in close quarters than Vegeta ever did, landing a hit on Kid Boo in the middle of his attack. That's a better sign of power than blasting a standing still Boo, which means next to nothing.

Kid Boo dodged Mr.Boo's candy attack with a massive smile on his face. You're jumping to conclusions in order to try to power up Mr.Boo. This is a fallacy. In no way whatsoever did Mr.Boo manage to do anything to Kid Boo.

It's going by what's actually shown. Kid Boo smiled when Vegeta sat there firing his barrage of blasts, too. You have no trouble exaggerating this as some superior feat despite the fact that Kid Boo allowed it to happen. I mean, you actually said Mr. Boo can't blow Kid Boo to bits even though we see that he can with one Chi-blast. That says it all.

Goku was actually impressed with Vegeta's performance, the same cannot be said about Mr.Boo.

Goku acknowledged Mr. Boo as one of the pieces to their victory, so no.

All Mr.Boo manage to do was the same thing that Gotenks did against Super Boo, but in this scenario, it was much less effective. This leaves more to be desired. And until I see a scan where Mr.Boo actually destroys Pure Boo completely, I don't see how he has the Ki energy to do the damage.

It leaves more to be desired for you. A scan isn't necessary to extrapolate that a flurry of Chi-blasts would do far more damage than one could. Sounds like your own gripe. Meanwhile, Vegeta can't even hit Kid Boo once in close quarters. Landing an attack on Boo in the middle of attacking is far more impressive than a standing still Kid Boo.

Actually the Ghosts hurt Boo because he was taken off guard.

They hurt Boo because of its power. Boo specifically cites the power of the technique before telling Vegito what'll happen when he touches it. By this point, Boo knows Vegito is way stronger than him, so why would he give the specifics of the technique if he didn't think it'd damage Vegito? There would've been no chance for an off-guarded moment there.

Anyway, Boo made it a point to dodge the Ghosts because he didn't want to get caught in another explosion.

When Boo is fighting seriously, he never gets blown apart. Super Boo vs Gotenks depicts this as does Bootenks vs Ultimate Gohan. In every other scenario, Boo either had a massive advantage that he didn't have to worry, or his opposistion was just that much stronger.

There were no techniques used in those battles that required regeneration in the first place. This isn't evidence. Gotenks was able to manhandle Boo enough in close quarters to make him regenerate his face back to normal at the very least.

His Ki blasts were much more effective then anything Mr.Boo did.

No, they weren't. His feat opened him up to get smashed into the ground from behind. There's nothing effective about it, unless you think Vegeta wants to get his face bashed in on purpose or something.

All Mr.Boo did was the same thing Gotenks did to Super Boo, this is not a reflection of him being stronger then Vegeta, it's simply basics physics and Mr.Boo attacking Boo while Boo is simultaneously charging him. There's nothing significant about it.

You say that like standing still and getting blasted is a reflection of Vegeta being stronger when it's not. A counterattack is interrupting the opposition in the process of an attack. Mr. Boo does this. Vegeta does nothing even close to that. He blasts apart a kid Boo that doesn't even think about dodging. There's nothing useful or worthwhile about it.

Pure Boo was mercilessly toying with Mr.Boo during the entire duration of their fight. Without his regenerative capabilities, Mr.Boo would have died on several occasions. Vegeta didn't. He never allowed himself to be put in that position until Boo managed to get ahold of him.

Vegeta would've been finished had Hercule not diverted Boo's attention away from him. Btw, his amazing tactic of blasting Boo apart allowed Boo to regenerate behind him and knock him on his ass to begin with. Kid Boo doesn't even resort to a Chi-blast against Vegeta when his melee attacks are enough.

The fight only occurred for a few scans before that happened. Even before that, Pure Boo was still tooling him.

Not with his legs only. Also, Vegeta was no longer fighting last I checked. Who puts up the better overall fight?

Mr.Boo's Ki isn't noted to decrease up until a few chapters after Pure Boo uses his legs. So that argument is heresy.

Which shows that it took an extended beat-down for Mr. Boo to grow weaker from the battle. Vegeta was rendered useless after he got choked into submission. So who put up the better fight again?

Vegeta never had time to react and got his with a blow to the back of his head. His body type would make this type of attack much more damaging. Whereas Boo can just instantly recover from it. It's not a reflection of power. Both Vegeta and Boo were outclassed to a huge degree, Mr.Boo got tooled with even more so.

Mr. Boo took a longer beating because Vegeta was already out of the fight. Who couldn't land a hit up close? Vegeta. Who couldn't stop Boo from choking them to submission? Vegeta. That's a better reflection of power than Kid Boo standing there allowing Vegeta to blast him.

Also, Super Saiyan 3 Goku's quick KMH>Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta's Chi-blast, yet the damage on Kid Boo is similar. Thus, this is not a good indication of anything power-wise. At all.

But Vegeta actually got something done, Mr.Boo didn't.

Allowing the pieces of the enemy to warp behind him and hammer him is the only thing he got done.

If Vegeta was capable of blasting Pure Boo into a million tiny shards, then he most certainly could to Mr. Boo. Had the two Boo's switched positions, Mr.Boo doesn't have the regenerative capabilities of Pure Boo and certainly would have died.

Blasting Boo into pieces isn't the same as vaporizing him altogether. Mr. Boo would regenerate from anything Vegeta throws at him. There is no difference in their regeneration. Kid Boo being way stronger than Mr. Boo and being another Boo is what made his power drop. Vegeta said they can take damage fighting another Boo, implying that someone that isn't a Boo can't inflict permanent damage to Boo. Vegito was beating the crap outta Gohan Boo, yet his Chi never went down at all.

Well the burden of proof lies on you to show Mr.Boo performing at the same level of Vegeta. The evidence doesn't exist. What Toriyama has shown us is that Mr.Boo is obviously depicted as the more powerful fighter with Mr.Boo's body type carrying the edge.

Glad to see you finally agree. Took long enough.

Kid Boo never went all out against any 3 of them. The only effective thing against him was the Genki Dama. Pure Boo's musles are buldging out and his veins are popping out. He's putting more effort into that then he was with any 3 fighters.

That isn't proof of anything. We have a direct statement of Vegeta saying Kid Boo showed more power than he imagined he was capable of it. This means he clearly upped his power while fighting Goku. Since this was necessary while fighting Goku, it means Kid Boo is by no means way above him.

Super Boo looks exactly the same when he escaped from the Rosat. Gotenks SSj Post was able to effectively do something against him here and there, so obviously Super Boo is somewhat stronger then Gotenks SSj Post initially. But because Gotenks had to increase his battle power by 8 times, then the same can be said for Super Boo and that the artwork shows that Super Boo had to go full throttle to escape. The same can be said for Kid Boo.

Different sequences. Kid Boo never got an upper-hand in the battle against Goku. If Kid Boo could easily overpower Vegeta and Mr. Boo, why didn't he do the same to Goku? Because he couldn't. The battle established them as equals, but Kid Boo's infinite stamina gave him the overall advantage. In terms of power, neither was above the other.

Pure Boo was pissed once Good Boo woke up. He wasn't beforehand. But that's not the same as saying he was 'enraged', like Innocent Boo was. That's a reach on your part.

Semantics. Pissed off, enraged, angry, whatever. Kid Boo was pissed when Mr. Boo tried to blindside him with an attack. This is shown and requires no speculation. What does Fat Boo have to do with anything? They're all different Boo's who have their own unique way of expressing themselves. Kid Boo doesn't need to be enraged in a similar fashion to Fat Boo to get the point across.

Mr.Boo's power isn't noted as decreasing until nearly the end of the fight

You're posting these scans as if Kid Boo>Mr. Boo is being disputed. It isn't.

The only reason Good Boo flipped him over is because he was busy hitting Hercule. So that means that both Vegeta and Mr.Boo only managed to hit Kid Boo twice successfully on their own. Yet Vegeta's feats are still more impressive.

He wasn't busy doing anything. He instantly slapped Hercule away with his antenna as he was choking Mr. Boo. He didn't take his eyes off of him or let up at all. Mr. Boo just extended his antenna and slammed him down. Your attempt at low-balling Mr. Boo won't change that.

All of this occurs before his Ki is stated to have decreased. Therefore this all occurred while Mr.Boo was at full power. And because he was getting tooled as bad as Vegeta was, it's safe to determine that Pure Boo was simply playing around with Mr.Boo the entire time and was never serious on one occasion.

He was serious in the initial part of that battle before he went back to not caring. Boo played with both Mr. Boo and Vegeta. One was just unable to land a hit in close quarters or took much of a beating.

Perhaps he was annoyed, sure, but to argue that he was 'enraged' is simply taking it a step too far. Mr.Boo was only able to land 2 hits. A head-butt and a Ki blast. The third time only occurred because Pure Boo struck Mr.Satan, so that doesn't count. This means that both Mr.Boo and Vegeta both struck Pure Boo twice, but Vegeta's attacks were more capable. All Mr.Boo managed to do was last longer due to his body type and Pure Boo messing around with him.

Yes, the attack that allowed the opponent to silently warp behind Vegeta and get in perfect position to knock Vegeta on his ass was definitely the more capable one.

 

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It was also said that Boo can take damage if it's Boo vs Boo.

 

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It progressed long enough for Mr. Boo to divert Kid Boo's attention away from Hercule, though. Had Mr. Boo not stepped in, Hercule would've never been around to convince the humans to give their energy. There would've been no Genki-Dama.

Mr.Boo was on the brink of death. That much is a fact. This occurred prior to Goku even completing the Genki Dama, Mr.Boo was no longer a factor. So Hercule intervened and Vegeta stepped in . It wasn't only Hercule and Mr.Boo that aided in saving the Earth.

I don't think you know what hearsay means. You started by saying Mr. Boo's tactics were shit to Vegeta's, but it's clear that this obviously isn't true. Continuously shooting into one direction left Vegeta wide open. This is a tactic he's displayed all throughout the series, so there's nothing great about it.

Mr.Boo was tooled for the entire duration of the battle and the few attacks that he managed to land were even less effective then the single attack Vegeta managed to land. This is simply what happened. If it occurred any other way, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

It wasn't unexpected. Goku even said Super Saiyan 3 is a form not meant for the living world. He just overestimated himself (and his form) taking on Kid Boo without merging. He basically states this.

Chapter: 513 (DBZ 319), P1.2
Context: after Goku drops out of Super Saiyan 3
Goku: “Da-dammit…When I was dead, it was no problem at all…It seems that in the end, becoming a Super Saiyan 3 with a living body eats up an excessive amount of ki…”
When was Goku dead? When he fought against Innocent Boo and while he first acquired the form in the other-world. Goku was alive during the time that he fought againt Pure Boo.
He states that while he was dead Super Saiyan 3 didn't eat upan excessive amount of Ki. The only reason it was less effective against Innocent -but not as wholly ineffective as it was against Kid Boo, was because it limited his time on Earth, nothing more.

That's nice and all, but he didn't. Had Krillin threw a Kienzan at a blinded Freeza, the Freeza saga would've likely been over, too. He overestimated his Super Saiyan 3 and nearly lost because of it. That's what we see.

Dragonball Z does not operate on basic logic. You're argument is essentially the contrary, which makes no cents because it's an anime.
The statement above debunks you anyways.

Yeah, because he never tried. Mr. Boo put up a better fight in close quarters than Vegeta did. All Vegeta did was blast apart a standing still Boo. That says nothing about his power because it was intentional. Kid Boo didn't intend to get head-butted or slammed on the floor.

If Good Boo was capable of doing so, he would have done it. The burden of proof lies on you. Having the Ki and battle power to do so is completely different from Boo's anatomy and which makes to falsley believe that Good Boo is stronger.

And Vegeta couldn't land a single hit on Kid Boo in close quarters. Guess who did?

Vegeta was rocked by an off-guard attack. Off-guard attacks allow people like Kid Trunks to kick Innocent Boo several miles away and the likes of Gotenks SSj Post to actually hurt Super Boo. It allowed Piccolo to kick Freeza a ways around. But Vegeta managed to successfully absorb it, even though it was thrown from a Super Saiyan 3 opponent and even though his body isn't the same as Boo's, which essentially absorbs anything thrown at it.

Vegeta is clearly rocked by that attack and it messes him up for the remainder of the fight. But the panels that come before-hand show the clear difference in power between Vegeta and Good Boo.
Let's compare Vegeta's Ki out-put to Good Boo's:

vs

Wow it's a huge difference.



Kid Boo actually did try dodging his attack but failed.

Vegeta immediately followed up with blasts which blew him completely apart. All Kid Boo managed to do was heal up behind him.
Good Boo did no such thing. Ki energy is a larger reflection of strength then anatomy is, which is essentially why Good Boo managed to do anything at all, with the exclusion of Ki. Do you not see what this means?

Kid Boo had no problem beating Vegeta's ass when he was standing right in front of him, so it's not like he needed to hit him from behind. Btw, that awesome feat of Vegeta lead to him being knocked down from behind to begin with. How was this effective again?

I explained why before. Vegeta was recovering from an off-guard attack that Pure Boo landed directly on top of his head.
It's not supposed to be effective. What it means is that Vegeta was taken off guard and rattled and because of his body type, unlike Boo, he couldn't instantly jump back from it. But it doesn't mean he's weaker then Boo, no, not at all. His Ki output obviously did more then anything Boo managed to do. This leads me to believe that Vegeta has more Ki/strength, but Boo can keep coming back from attacks and eventually... land a hit here or there.

Nope. He was clearly enraged. His reaction is the same as it was when he saw the Genki-Dama.

Please stop using the terminology 'enraged'. The only Boo that has an enraged form is Innocent Boo. You are now making things up in a desparate attempt to have a retort. But as usual, I notice that this is what you typically do, regardless if it goes against what's in the Manga.
But since you're so hell-bent on Pure Boo being enraged, let's compare how he acknowledges Mister Boo and the Genki Dama:
This is obviously Kid Boo being the moron he is. Doing random races and random things:

This in no way reflects him being enraged. Now let's compare that to the Genki Dama:

The difference visually is astounding. But since you're so hell-bent on this enraged bullshit, I'll continue.

Look how desparate Kid Boo is here. He's not like this against Goku, Good Boo or Vegeta. Not once.

Again, he's pretty friggen desparate. This type of artwork in no way reflects how he was against Good Boo, not in one bit.

As I've said before, Kid Boo has NEVER put this much effort into any of his fights. If you were to argue that he was 'enraged' you could do so now, but not before-hand. By the merits of your own argument, I can easily flip it on you and say that Boo was 'enraged' here:

Was Pure Boo enraged here? It's a much more definitive reaction then the one he did against Good Boo but not nearly as definitive as the one against the Genki Dama. Nope! He surely wasn't. Why? Because this is part of Good Boo's character, he does random things for no reason. Goku and Vegeta do not hint at a battle power increase, instead they're wondering the same thing as I am, what the fuck is he doing? Your logic on the other-hand would dictate that he powered up.

Wrong.

So let's leave this stupid shit about Pure Boo being enraged in the trash, exactly where it belongs to be.

How does his body type change the fact that he could land a hit in close quarters while Vegeta couldn't? If someone way stronger than Boo hits him, it hurts him regardless. Gohan displays this after beating on Super Boo. His body type didn't actually stop him from feeling the weight of Gohan's attacks.

You tell me to factor in Boo's body type, yet you have no issue completely disregarding that the two attacked Boo differently. Even going as far to say Mr. Boo wouldn't be able to blow Kid Boo apart if he did the same thing Vegeta did.

Because, if you're not anywhere near as damaged as someone else from the exact same attack, that allows you to come in close and land one on your own. You clearly have no boxing or fighting experience otherwise you would understand this simple concept.
None of Good Boo's attacks were impressive in the least. Vegeta was more effective and had more done. The only reason he couldn't keep fighting is because of his body type and being taken completely off guard.

He countered Kid Boo when he tried to continue on with his attack, he blasted Boo apart, and he slammed Boo down when he was choking him. Far better than anything Vegeta ever did.

Gotenks SSj Pre rushing at Super Boo here debunks the first point:

It's the exact same thing. Pure Boo rushed him but Good Boo immediately recovered and rushed him, taking him off guard. Not impressive at all.
As for the second point, Kid Boo was busy throwing Hercule away when Good Boo took the moment to gain a slight upper-hand:

So nothing Good Boo did is impressive in the least and can be reasonably explained. All that leaves you with is Good Boo's Ki attack on Pure Boo, which Vegeta's Ki attack obviously proved to be more powerful.

Goku acknowledged Mr. Boo as one of the pieces to their victory, so no.

That doesn't mean anything.

Anyway, Boo made it a point to dodge the Ghosts because he didn't want to get caught in another explosion.

Let's test out your theory in accordance with the Manga.

Nope. Super Boo was taken off guard.

And NOPE, Boo was taken off guard a second time.

Not with his legs only. Also, Vegeta was no longer fighting last I checked. Who puts up the better overall fight?

Both Good Boo and Vegeta were equally effective in the damage they were able to do, with Vegeta carrying an edge in power. Good Boo lasted longer because Pure Boo enjoyed tooling him and because of Good Boo's anatomy.

Which shows that it took an extended beat-down for Mr. Boo to grow weaker from the battle. Vegeta was rendered useless after he got choked into submission. So who put up the better fight again?

Because of Boo's anatomy and Vegeta being taken completely off guard. They both fought equally effective with Good Boo lasting longer. Although, lasting longer is not a reflection of strength if the attacks from one side in comparison to the other are superior. The anatomy of Majin Boo more then explains what occurred. Your one dimensional perspective does not change this.

Also, Super Saiyan 3 Goku's quick KMH>Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta's Chi-blast, yet the damage on Kid Boo is similar. Thus, this is not a good indication of anything power-wise. At all.

A fully powered Kamehameha takes time to charge, at least one minute by Goku's admission. That and Goku wasn't even fighting at full power originally. Therefore a quick Kamehameha isn't really a reflection of what he's truly capable of.

Glad to see you finally agree. Took long enough.

I mistyped, hehe.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Mr.Boo was on the brink of death. That much is a fact. This occurred prior to Goku even completing the Genki Dama, Mr.Boo was no longer a factor. So Hercule intervened and Vegeta stepped in . It wasn't only Hercule and Mr.Boo that aided in saving the Earth.

You tried to disregard Mr. Boo's performance in comparison to Vegeta's. Goku statement tells us that his performance was worth acknowledging. Vegeta within a few pages of being punched had to be saved from being choked out. Both got rekt'd, but one got rekt'd a lot faster with basic attacks.

Mr.Boo was tooled for the entire duration of the battle and the few attacks that he managed to land were even less effective then the single attack Vegeta managed to land. This is simply what happened. If it occurred any other way, I'd be inclined to agree with you.

Vegeta "more effective" attack lead to him getting smashed into the ground. He also got tooled far faster than Mr. Boo did from basic melee attacks alone. Looking at both performances objectively, Mr. Boo did much better than Vegeta did. The most you can say is Vegeta blew apart a standing still Kid Boo, but the fact that he opened himself up while doing it shows it was a terrible effort.

He states that while he was dead Super Saiyan 3 didn't eat upan excessive amount of Ki. The only reason it was less effective against Innocent -but not as wholly ineffective as it was against Kid Boo, was because it limited his time on Earth, nothing more.

Goku: “It’s that ‘Super Saiyan 3’ thing from before…It’s a technique you should only use in the afterlife…In this world, where time exists, it uses too much energy, and you get completely exhausted all at once…”

It's basically a reaffirmation of what he said earlier. This is exactly why he's winded the entire time he's on the lookout. The only difference is he wasn't on borrowed time this time around. Super Saiyan 3 is still a form that shouldn't be used in the living world because it drains too much energy.

Dragonball Z does not operate on basic logic. You're argument is essentially the contrary, which makes no cents because it's an anime.
The statement above debunks you anyways.

It doesn't debunk anything. There's no point in going into all of these hypothetical outcomes that could've taken place if things went a certain way. You go by what actually took place.

If Good Boo was capable of doing so, he would have done it. The burden of proof lies on you. Having the Ki and battle power to do so is completely different from Boo's anatomy and which makes to falsley believe that Good Boo is stronger.

Who says he can't? You're not AT, so how..can you even say that? His power didn't drop by this point of the fight, so he had enough power to shoot more blasts at him. Do Chi-blasts drain deplete Mr. Boo's energy now or something? He didn't simply because he didn't. That's not the same as saying he couldn't, which is really what you're trying to say right now. Fat Boo actually has the ability to release multiple Chi-blasts, as shown in his earlier battle with Goku. Vegeta in a weakened state can do this as early as the Saiyan saga, so a being with near limitless power can certainly do it.

Did Mr. Boo have enough power to blow Kid Boo apart with one blast? If the answer is yes, then his battle power is more than enough to do it with a dozen more.

Vegeta was rocked by an off-guard attack.

He still landed no attacks outside of what Kid Boo allowed him to. Mr. Boo did while Kid Boo was in the process of attacking him. That makes it a better feat by default than the example where Kid Boo stood there, allowing Vegeta to blast him.

Off-guard attacks allow people like Kid Trunks to kick Innocent Boo several miles away and the likes of Gotenks SSj Post to actually hurt Super Boo. It allowed Piccolo to kick Freeza a ways around. But Vegeta managed to successfully absorb it, even though it was thrown from a Super Saiyan 3 opponent and even though his body isn't the same as Boo's, which essentially absorbs anything thrown at it.

Then proceeded to get stomped anyway. Talking about Vegeta.

Vegeta is clearly rocked by that attack and it messes him up for the remainder of the fight. But the panels that come before-hand show the clear difference in power between Vegeta and Good Boo.

Yeah. A clear difference in blasting away like a moron and opening yourself up to said attack from behind. Who's fault was that? Vegeta's. Obviously the feat wasn't that good if it lead to him being smashed from behind. Not much of a feat. Also, Kid Boo would've destroyed Vegeta whether he landed that attack or not. By Vegeta's own admission, Kid Boo would've killed him quickly.

Anyone can blow up a standing still Boo. If one blast can blow Boo apart, it means another blast would blow him further apart. Factor in countless blasts and Boo would've been gone if Mr. Boo performed the same feat. It's really not a big deal.

Kid Boo actually did try dodging his attack but failed.

No, he didn't. He started moving towards Vegeta and got clipped by the blast. If Kid Boo wanted to dodge it, he would've dodged it. The fact that he doesn't even regenerate quickly shows there was no urgency to ever dodge the attack. He didn't care.

Vegeta immediately followed up with blasts which blew him completely apart. All Kid Boo managed to do was heal up behind him.
Good Boo did no such thing. Ki energy is a larger reflection of strength then anatomy is, which is essentially why Good Boo managed to do anything at all, with the exclusion of Ki. Do you not see what this means?

All of that is your own personal conjecture not reflected within the story. Mr. Boo blew him apart with a single blast. If it bounced off of Kid Boo, you'd have a point, but that's totally absent here. What do we see? The blast tear off half of Kid Boo's body. You're seriously going to compare countless blasts to a single blast as if that makes a strong case for Vegeta? At least Mr. Boo can knock away a pissed off Kid Boo while Vegeta is completely at his mercy.

There's no comparison here because you're going out of your way to act like Mr. Boo can't toss more than one Chi-blast out while also saying he possesses far greater stamina than Vegeta to explain why he can take a longer beating. Come on, bruh.

I explained why before. Vegeta was recovering from an off-guard attack that Pure Boo landed directly on top of his head.
It's not supposed to be effective. What it means is that Vegeta was taken off guard and rattled and because of his body type, unlike Boo, he couldn't instantly jump back from it. But it doesn't mean he's weaker then Boo, no, not at all. His Ki output obviously did more then anything Boo managed to do. This leads me to believe that Vegeta has more Ki/strength, but Boo can keep coming back from attacks and eventually... land a hit here or there.

Vegeta admitted Kid Boo would've killed him outright, with Vegeta expressing surprise at Boo's heavy attacks. So the off-guard attack doesn't change anything. If Kid Boo hit him in the same spot from the front, he'd fall to the floor just as fast. He still got demolished in close quarters regardless.

Let's tally up this greater output of power:

Mr. Boo=A single Chi-blast, Candy Beam
Vegeta=Dozens upon dozens of Chi-blasts.

That just shows Vegeta threw out more Chi-blasts, not that he has greater power than Mr. Boo overall. That is implied nowhere.

Please stop using the terminology 'enraged'. The only Boo that has an enraged form is Innocent Boo. You are now making things up in a desparate attempt to have a retort. But as usual, I notice that this is what you typically do, regardless if it goes against what's in the Manga.

I can use whatever terminology I want. And I'm not making shit up. The word to describe Fat Boo's state from the actual manga is "angry". Was Super Boo shown to be angry? Yes. Was Gohan Boo shown to be angry? Yes. Was Kid Boo shown to be angry? Yes. Btw, I said enraged as in he's fucking upset. Where the fuck did "enraged form" come from? Not me because it's not in any post I made. Play whatever semantical game you like on your own.

Remember when you said Kid Boo attacked Hercule and Vegeta with anger? Thought so.

A bunch of scans that have nothing to do with anything

This is your biggest problem. It's so easy to see in the way you take any information in. You assume because I say Kid Boo was pissed off at Mr. Boo, he has to use full-effort against him. No. That's you getting a certain meaning from a post (that no one else is getting, btw) and blowing it up to an unnecessary proportion. I said countless times that he appeared to attack Mr. Boo with more ferocity before calming down and going back to not caring. Not once did I say he used his all against Mr. Boo because it's something I don't even believe. You, for some odd reason, believe Kid Boo is so one-dimensional that he can't vary his efforts while being pissed at both Mr. Boo and the sight of the Genki-Dama. Artwork shows he was really pissed at nearly being blindsided by Mr. Boo's attack.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. Mr. Boo is not close to Kid Boo. Kid Boo did not use all of his power against Mr. Boo. Kid Boo is far more powerful than Mr. Boo.

As I've said before, Kid Boo has NEVER put this much effort into any of his fights. If you were to argue that he was 'enraged' you could do so now, but not before-hand. By the merits of your own argument, I can easily flip it on you and say that Boo was 'enraged' here

He randomly yelled out loud and went back to normal before trying to blow the planet up. He didn't attack anyone and kept a calm expression while doing his attack. You can try to flip it, but there's nothing to flip.

Was Pure Boo enraged here? It's a much more definitive reaction then the one he did against Good Boo but not nearly as definitive as the one against the Genki Dama.

Ah, keep telling yourself that. I don't need to try that hard to spin something that's pretty clear for anyone to see.

Nope! He surely wasn't. Why? Because this is part of Good Boo's character, he does random things for no reason. Goku and Vegeta do not hint at a battle power increase, instead they're wondering the same thing as I am, what the fuck is he doing? Your logic on the other-hand would dictate that he powered up.

....Ok. There's no other Boo who gains power through anger outside of Fat Boo. That has nothing to do with being enraged because we see other Boo's display sheer rage when things aren't going their way. My logic? Yeah. If you're totally reading my posts upside down.

So let's leave this stupid shit about Pure Boo being enraged in the trash, exactly where it belongs to be.

Says the guy who's entire argument is predicated on a guy firing more than a few dozens blasts at a standing still Kid Boo to prove his superiority to the guy that used one. Please stop...

Because, if you're not anywhere near as damaged as someone else from the exact same attack, that allows you to come in close and land one on your own. You clearly have no boxing or fighting experience otherwise you would understand this simple concept.
None of Good Boo's attacks were impressive in the least. Vegeta was more effective and had more done. The only reason he couldn't keep fighting is because of his body type and being taken completely off guard.

I have enough fighting experience to know that someone standing there and punching someone that's allowing themselves to be hit is nowhere near as impressive as the guy being parried away as he rushes in for an attack. Mr. Boo counter-attacked Kid Boo after recovering, Vegeta didn't do shit but blast a standing still Boo. Oh, and Vegeta says Kid Boo would kill him right off the bat, so being knocked down off-guard doesn't mean shit.

Vegeta: “…Heh…You never intended to switch out, even from the beginning. Don’t spout such transparent lies…You knew…That I’d be killed at once.”

So whether Vegeta was knocked down or not, he'd be unable to land a hit on Kid Boo. Can you prove he could? No, you certainly can't.

Gotenks SSj Pre rushing at Super Boo here debunks the first point

Except for the part where it knocked both of them back, hurting Gotenks even more than it hurt Boo. Mr. Boo's knocked Kid Boo away and he clearly took no damage from it. Not comparable.

It's the exact same thing. Pure Boo rushed him but Good Boo immediately recovered and rushed him, taking him off guard. Not impressive at all.

It's not the exact same thing. Both Gotenks and Super Boo were stunned because their heads met with each other. Mr. Boo headbutted Kid boo right in the face, and we can see the blemish on Kid Boo's face as he's knocked away. Far from being the same.

So nothing Good Boo did is impressive in the least and can be reasonably explained. All that leaves you with is Good Boo's Ki attack on Pure Boo, which Vegeta's Ki attack obviously proved to be more powerful.

Utter shit. Kid Boo quickly swatted Hercule away and continued to choke Mr. Boo. The fat guy was just able to muster up enough strength to extend his antenna and slam him down. Keep trying to low-ball Mr. Boo while overrating Vegeta's crappy ass flurry of Chi-blasts that lead to him taking an unwanted shot from behind.

That doesn't mean anything.

Sounds like your own personal opinion.

Let's test out your theory in accordance with the Manga.

Nice job conveniently skipping the page where he dodges the two Ghosts.

And NOPE, Boo was taken off guard a second time.

My original comment that I'll bold since you've missed the point of it: Anyway, Boo made it a point to dodge the Ghosts because he didn't want to get caught in another explosion.

Both Good Boo and Vegeta were equally effective in the damage they were able to do, with Vegeta carrying an edge in power. Good Boo lasted longer because Pure Boo enjoyed tooling him and because of Good Boo's anatomy.

Your Vegeta example does not prove he had an edge in power. It proves he can blow Kid Boo apart if he hurls countless Chi-blasts at him.

Because of Boo's anatomy and Vegeta being taken completely off guard.

Vegeta said Kid Boo would've killed him right off the bat, so it doesn't matter that he got hit from behind. The fact that he's taken aback by Kid Boo's heavy attacks further shows Kid Boo would've bodied him from the front, so really, stop making a big deal about nothing.

Although, lasting longer is not a reflection of strength if the attacks from one side in comparison to the other are superior.

Yet blasting apart a standing still Kid Boo that eventually lead to Vegeta being knocked down because of this is superior.....

Can't say I'm surprised.... :elmo

The anatomy of Majin Boo more then explains what occurred.

Yet none of this changes the fact that Mr. Boo can take a hard kick to the face and still counter Kid Boo with a headbutt to knock him back. Vegeta's flurry of Chi-blasts opened him up to get knocked down....

Your one dimensional perspective does not change this.

Nor does standing in one spot and allowing yourself to get blasted does much in indicating Vegeta's superiority.

A fully powered Kamehameha takes time to charge, at least one minute by Goku's admission. That and Goku wasn't even fighting at full power originally. Therefore a quick Kamehameha isn't really a reflection of what he's truly capable of.

Kinda irrelevant. Vegeta said Super Saiyan 3 Goku had power beyond his imagination, even trembling when he sees him change into the form.

Super Saiyan 3 Goku's Quick KMH>>>>>>Anything Super Saiyan 2 Vegeta

This is exactly why the Vegeta example is so awful.

 

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You tried to disregard Mr. Boo's performance in comparison to Vegeta's. Goku statement tells us that his performance was worth acknowledging. Vegeta within a few pages of being punched had to be saved from being choked out. Both got rekt'd, but one got rekt'd a lot faster with basic attacks.

Goku's statement isn't a reflection of performance, it's reflective that they aided in saving the Earth when Goku was defenseless (due to charging the Genki Dama) and Vegeta being beaten half to death.
The ending words to your statement completely disregard everything that I've argued during this debate, are you disregarding it intentionally? There is more to plays into a battle then just battle power, such as anatomy.

Vegeta "more effective" attack lead to him getting smashed into the ground. He also got tooled far faster than Mr. Boo did from basic melee attacks alone. Looking at both performances objectively, Mr. Boo did much better than Vegeta did. The most you can say is Vegeta blew apart a standing still Kid Boo, but the fact that he opened himself up while doing it shows it was a terrible effort.

A panel shows Vegeta incinerating Pure Boo completely. Good Boo was uncapable of replicating this feat. Vegeta clearly holds the edge in battle power while Good Boo holds the edge overall, due to his anatomy.

It's basically a reaffirmation of what he said earlier. This is exactly why he's winded the entire time he's on the lookout. The only difference is he wasn't on borrowed time this time around. Super Saiyan 3 is still a form that shouldn't be used in the living world because it drains too much energy.

Goku stated that it was easy in a dead body. The only time that he was dead was while he was on Earth, he isn't dead in the Kaioshin realm. Hence why he was taken off guard while using it in a living body.
Please don't ignore/twist the statements.

It doesn't debunk anything. There's no point in going into all of these hypothetical outcomes that could've taken place if things went a certain way. You go by what actually took place.

Yes I do go by what actually occurred, such as Vegeta outperforming Good Boo while simultaneously acknowleding character statements, such as Goku stating that using SSj3 in a dead body was easy.

Who says he can't? You're not AT, so how..can you even say that? His power didn't drop by this point of the fight, so he had enough power to shoot more blasts at him. Do Chi-blasts drain deplete Mr. Boo's energy now or something? He didn't simply because he didn't. That's not the same as saying he couldn't, which is really what you're trying to say right now. Fat Boo actually has the ability to release multiple Chi-blasts, as shown in his earlier battle with Goku. Vegeta in a weakened state can do this as early as the Saiyan saga, so a being with near limitless power can certainly do it.

Did Mr. Boo have enough power to blow Kid Boo apart with one blast? If the answer is yes, then his battle power is more than enough to do it with a dozen more.

Then please show us where he did it successfully.

He still landed no attacks outside of what Kid Boo allowed him to. Mr. Boo did while Kid Boo was in the process of attacking him. That makes it a better feat by default than the example where Kid Boo stood there, allowing Vegeta to blast him.

Vegeta won't recover as fast as Good Boo, he got struck with an off-guard attack. Your one dimensional perspective is completely discredited once we acknowledge Boo's body type and ability to take a massive beating without going down.

Then proceeded to get stomped anyway. Talking about Vegeta.

Vegeta was clearly dazed and had no recovery time. Comparing his body type to Boo's and then arguing that it's a reflection of strength is laughable.

Yeah. A clear difference in blasting away like a moron and opening yourself up to said attack from behind. Who's fault was that? Vegeta's. Obviously the feat wasn't that good if it lead to him being smashed from behind. Not much of a feat. Also, Kid Boo would've destroyed Vegeta whether he landed that attack or not. By Vegeta's own admission, Kid Boo would've killed him quickly.

Anyone can blow up a standing still Boo. If one blast can blow Boo apart, it means another blast would blow him further apart. Factor in countless blasts and Boo would've been gone if Mr. Boo performed the same feat. It's really not a big deal.

Again, this is all explainable by Majin Boo's anatomy. Arguing that it's reflective of strength is incorrect.

No, he didn't. He started moving towards Vegeta and got clipped by the blast. If Kid Boo wanted to dodge it, he would've dodged it. The fact that he doesn't even regenerate quickly shows there was no urgency to ever dodge the attack. He didn't care.

Pure Boo was busy messing around when Vegeta shot his blast, then he attempted to stop and jump over the attack but it was too late. He clearly doesn't appear like he 'let' Vegeta blast him apart.

ll of that is your own personal conjecture not reflected within the story. Mr. Boo blew him apart with a single blast. If it bounced off of Kid Boo, you'd have a point, but that's totally absent here. What do we see? The blast tear off half of Kid Boo's body. You're seriously going to compare countless blasts to a single blast as if that makes a strong case for Vegeta? At least Mr. Boo can knock away a pissed off Kid Boo while Vegeta is completely at his mercy.

There's no comparison here because you're going out of your way to act like Mr. Boo can't toss more than one Chi-blast out while also saying he possesses far greater stamina than Vegeta to explain why he can take a longer beating. Come on, bruh.

It's not conjecture at all. It's all depicted within the original Manga. Pure Boo was messing around with Good Boo long before his Ki is noted by both Goku and Vegeta as decreasing, so clearly this enraged argument is not actually supported by the Manga, and Pure Boo's random acts of violence are just that... random, they have no intended purpose, such as 'powering up', when no such power-up is noted.
Futher-more, everything you've argued up until this point has been debunked already, Majin Boo's anatomy making the obvious difference. I've also discredited several of his feats above, which actually makes Vegeta look more impressive in terms of battle power.

Vegeta admitted Kid Boo would've killed him outright, with Vegeta expressing surprise at Boo's heavy attacks. So the off-guard attack doesn't change anything. If Kid Boo hit him in the same spot from the front, he'd fall to the floor just as fast. He still got demolished in close quarters regardless.

You're making up a random principal for whatever reason by stating that the off-guard attack doesn't matter. Vegeta never said that Pure Boo would kill him out-right, he states that after Pure Boo lands his off-guard attack and resumes to rush him.
Good Boo = Blew Boo in half and managed to land a few attacks due to taking Pure Boo off guard.
Vegeta = Blasted Boo apart completely and blew him in half.
The two are more-or-less the same, but Vegeta achieved more overall.

I can use whatever terminology I want. And I'm not making shit up. The word to describe Fat Boo's state from the actual manga is "angry". Was Super Boo shown to be angry? Yes. Was Gohan Boo shown to be angry? Yes. Was Kid Boo shown to be angry? Yes. Btw, I said enraged as in he's fucking upset. Where the fuck did "enraged form" come from? Not me because it's not in any post I made. Play whatever semantical game you like on your own.

Remember when you said Kid Boo attacked Hercule and Vegeta with anger? Thought so.

You stated that he was 'enraged'. Majin Boo appears to be mad in certain scenarios, but that's a far cry from assuming that he's powering up. As usual, the burden of proof lies on you to show us some statement, somewhere, from some supporting character that implies that Pure Boo powered up.
I discredited this above, because you made a silly comparison between how he looked at Good Boo and the Genki Dama.
Just leave it in the trash where it belongs.

This is your biggest problem. It's so easy to see in the way you take any information in. You assume because I say Kid Boo was pissed off at Mr. Boo, he has to use full-effort against him. No. That's you getting a certain meaning from a post (that no one else is getting, btw) and blowing it up to an unnecessary proportion. I said countless times that he appeared to attack Mr. Boo with more ferocity before calming down and going back to not caring. Not once did I say he used his all against Mr. Boo because it's something I don't even believe. You, for some odd reason, believe Kid Boo is so one-dimensional that he can't vary his efforts while being pissed at both Mr. Boo and the sight of the Genki-Dama. Artwork shows he was really pissed at nearly being blindsided by Mr. Boo's attack.

I don't know how many times I have to repeat this. Mr. Boo is not close to Kid Boo. Kid Boo did not use all of his power against Mr. Boo. Kid Boo is far more powerful than Mr. Boo.

If Pure Boo varied his efforts, I'd like to see a statement telling us that he did so.
The burden of proof lies on you.

He randomly yelled out loud and went back to normal before trying to blow the planet up. He didn't attack anyone and kept a calm expression while doing his attack. You can try to flip it, but there's nothing to flip.

No Ki increase is noted at this point either. Goku and Vegeta are standing right there and simply wonder why he did that, because that's what Pure Boo does, random absurb things for no reason. Kapeesh. But you on the other-hand have to to take it as an increase of battle power, even though it's not noted. Not because you actually believe it but because it will help you in this debate, it isn't.

I have enough fighting experience to know that someone standing there and punching someone that's allowing themselves to be hit is nowhere near as impressive as the guy being parried away as he rushes in for an attack. Mr. Boo counter-attacked Kid Boo after recovering, Vegeta didn't do shit but blast a standing still Boo. Oh, and Vegeta says Kid Boo would kill him right off the bat, so being knocked down off-guard doesn't mean shit.

Good Boo can recover at a much faster rate then Vegeta, although that's not due to battle power, but anatomy.

I have enough fighting experience to know that someone standing there and punching someone that's allowing themselves to be hit is nowhere near as impressive as the guy being parried away as he rushes in for an attack. Mr. Boo counter-attacked Kid Boo after recovering, Vegeta didn't do shit but blast a standing still Boo. Oh, and Vegeta says Kid Boo would kill him right off the bat, so being knocked down off-guard doesn't mean shit.

Let's look through the Manga, shall we?

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Vegeta was then taken off guard and had no recovery time here:

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This reflects everything that I have been arguing. Vegeta doesn't have the anatomy to instantly recover from that attack, he's seen dazed in the bottom panel but Pure Boo immediately rushes him. Good Boo would probably recover instantly, but that not due to his battle power.

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And after all this occurred, Vegeta finally says that Pure Boo is killing him, not beforehand.
So my argument still stands. I'm beginning to think that you don't even read the Manga and just make things up for the sake of arguing.

So whether Vegeta was knocked down or not, he'd be unable to land a hit on Kid Boo. Can you prove he could? No, you certainly can't.

But he did land a hit on Kid Boo, so you're wrong in the departure and he wasn't killed at once, and he wasn't even killed after being pummelled several dozen times. So the statement on it's own isn't reflective of what actually occurred because what actually occurred came AFTERWARDS and it paints an entirely different story.

Except for the part where it knocked both of them back, hurting Gotenks even more than it hurt Boo. Mr. Boo's knocked Kid Boo away and he clearly took no damage from it. Not comparable.

You're missing the point. Gotenks took Super Boo off guard because Super Boo rushed him, meanwhile Good Boo took Pure Boo off guard because Good Boo rushed him. It's not a reflection of strength, because we know that Gotenks doesn't compare to Super Boo at all, it's basic physics.

Utter shit. Kid Boo quickly swatted Hercule away and continued to choke Mr. Boo. The fat guy was just able to muster up enough strength to extend his antenna and slam him down. Keep trying to low-ball Mr. Boo while overrating Vegeta's crappy ass flurry of Chi-blasts that lead to him taking an unwanted shot from behind.

I debunked Good Boo's head-butt against Pure Boo rather easily and now I'll debunk this secondary point.

As we can see by the action marks around his face and the "ERP?" statement, the implication here is that Good Boo took an opportunity to make a move and Pure Boo didn't expect it.
Please stop fabricating that everything that happens within the story is reflective of strength, it isn't. It can be reasonably justified by other means.

My original comment that I'll bold since you've missed the point of it: Anyway, Boo made it a point to dodge the Ghosts because he didn't want to get caught in another explosion.

You argued that he was taken off guard and I showed that he wasn't.

Your Vegeta example does not prove he had an edge in power. It proves he can blow Kid Boo apart if he hurls countless Chi-blasts at him.

Good Boo never achieved so much. If Akira Toriyama intended to show us that Good Boo was more powerful then he would have depicted it, he didn't.

Vegeta said Kid Boo would've killed him right off the bat, so it doesn't matter that he got hit from behind. The fact that he's taken aback by Kid Boo's heavy attacks further shows Kid Boo would've bodied him from the front, so really, stop making a big deal about nothing.

That statement occurred before the actual fighting began, so it's contradicted and untrue.

The main thing that you're seemingly arguing is that everything is reflective of strength within the bout' and I showed that it wasn't. There are several previous scenario that reflect the same thing but these are not reflections of strength as opposed to them being reasonable explained by other means. So when Good Boo lands a head butt on Pure Boo it's not necessarily a reflection of strength because as we seen Gotenks capable of doing so to Super Boo. However, when the fighting was all said and done, Vegeta managed to blast Boo completely apart while Good Boo hardly achieved so much. Additionally, you seem to think that just because Good Boo lasted longer then it has to mean that he's stronger by default, well I presented an obvious reason as to how this is a false way of thinking. Majin Boo's anatomy allowed him to take a heavier beating, not because he was stronger. This is a reason as to why one dimensional perspective on battles powers are fallacious. There is more to consider when analyzing a fight, such as anatomy, battle power, speed, technique and what actually occurred within the battle.

As a final wrap-up to put an end to this silly debate, I'll show you that it's actually impossible for Good Boo to be stronger then Vegeta SSj2:

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As we see, Teen Gohan is roughly 2.5x weaker then Innocent Boo.

Counter Argument: The meter is inaccurate because of the Yakon and Goku comparison.

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Counter: Incorrect. the Kiri meter that Babidi is using maxes out at 3,000 Kiris. Goku could very well have a Kiri reading far higher and contradict nothing:

Then we have this statement:

Chapter: 485 (DBZ 291), P7.4
Context: as the two Boos fight
Narrator: “The original Majin Boo had no chance of winning...This was because during the split, the majority of the power went to the evil one…"

So it's a mathematical impossibility for Good Boo to be stronger then Vegeta SSj2, this means that we have to figure out how and why he lasted longer... OH YA, Anatomy!

 

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Goku's statement isn't a reflection of performance, it's reflective that they aided in saving the Earth when Goku was defenseless (due to charging the Genki Dama) and Vegeta being beaten half to death.

Uh, and what would he be judging them by? Their performance. If there was no performance, there would be nothing to acknowledge. Goku said the two of them were why they weren't all dead. It's as simple as that.

The ending words to your statement completely disregard everything that I've argued during this debate, are you disregarding it intentionally? There is more to plays into a battle then just battle power, such as anatomy.

I know that. And there's more to power than simply blowing a fragile guy like Boo apart, too. I can acknowledge that anatomy was a huge factor in Mr. Boo's case. Can you acknowledge that Kid Boo allowed himself to be vaporized by Vegeta? Fair is fair.

A panel shows Vegeta incinerating Pure Boo completely. Good Boo was uncapable of replicating this feat. Vegeta clearly holds the edge in battle power while Good Boo holds the edge overall, due to his anatomy.

That has nothing to do with battle power. A Chi-blast will blow Boo apart if it hits him. Vegeta somehow managed to incinerate Boo and put himself in a terrible position to retaliate. How or why is this considered a good feat again? He was blasting in the same direction well after Boo already shifted away from it.

Goku stated that it was easy in a dead body. The only time that he was dead was while he was on Earth, he isn't dead in the Kaioshin realm. Hence why he was taken off guard while using it in a living body.

How do you know Goku isn't talking about when he was actually dead in the Otherworld? Goku never said anything about the Fat Boo battle. He just says it was no issue when he was dead. Vegeta asked why didn't he build his Chi, and Goku said it was no problem when he was dead. Since most of you like to think Goku was holding-back a considerable amount, at what point did he attempt to build his Chi against Fat Boo? Never, right? Because that would go against him holding-back.

Please don't ignore/twist the statements.

I'm not ignoring anything. Go examine the artwork when Goku reverts to Base, when he returns to the lookout to show the Fusion pose, and while he's talking. Piccolo even looks at him and questions if Super Saiyan 3 drained that much of his energy. Dude was winded the entire time before his time was up. Can't be taken off-guard if you're already aware of something--unless he wanted to pretend those Super Saiyan 3 effects were temporary or something.

Yes I do go by what actually occurred, such as Vegeta outperforming Good Boo while simultaneously acknowleding character statements, such as Goku stating that using SSj3 in a dead body was easy.

There was no outperforming on Vegeta's end. He got bodied super fast and used an attack that left him wide open. His performance was terrible.

Then please show us where he did it successfully.

He never tried it. That's not the same as saying he couldn't do it. Show me where Super Saiyan 3 Goku successfully wiped Kid Boo out. You can't. Does this mean that he couldn't? Of course not

Vegeta won't recover as fast as Good Boo, he got struck with an off-guard attack. Your one dimensional perspective is completely discredited once we acknowledge Boo's body type and ability to take a massive beating without going down.

Coming from someone who thinks Vegeta blasting apart a standing still Kid Boo is a good feat.......

Vegeta was clearly dazed and had no recovery time. Comparing his body type to Boo's and then arguing that it's a reflection of strength is laughable.

Yeah, but you're claiming that this is a good feat when this is exactly why Vegeta got knocked down to begin with. How is that any less laughable?

Again, this is all explainable by Majin Boo's anatomy. Arguing that it's reflective of strength is incorrect.

That same answer can literally be applied to your example on Vegeta. How does this imply he has a superior battle power if blowing Boo apart is something that can be done in a single blast?

Pure Boo was busy messing around when Vegeta shot his blast, then he attempted to stop and jump over the attack but it was too late. He clearly doesn't appear like he 'let' Vegeta blast him apart.

The blast obviously took him by surprise considering there's !! on that same page. After that, he doesn't even bother regenerating and just stays right there. Whack feat.

It's not conjecture at all. It's all depicted within the original Manga. Pure Boo was messing around with Good Boo long before his Ki is noted by both Goku and Vegeta as decreasing, so clearly this enraged argument is not actually supported by the Manga, and Pure Boo's random acts of violence are just that... random, they have no intended purpose, such as 'powering up', when no such power-up is noted.

I don't know if you have selected memory or what. Please show where I ever said he raised his power to fight Mr. Boo. I'll save you the trouble and tell you such a thing doesn't exist. Kid Boo attacked Mr. Boo while being pissed off, and the initial part of their battle friggin shows this. To say he never did is basically ignoring something everyone can see. His anger subsided, but that doesn't change the fact that he was angry when he started his attack.

No power-up was noted when Kid Boo grabbed the Genki-Dama, yet that never stopped you. Hypocrite, much?

Futher-more, everything you've argued up until this point has been debunked already, Majin Boo's anatomy making the obvious difference. I've also discredited several of his feats above, which actually makes Vegeta look more impressive in terms of battle power.

Vegeta's battle power ain't shit. You've shown that Vegeta could disintegrate a being that regenerates from pieces like it's nothing. That feat is ass because it's not only basic, but it actually put him in a prone position.

You're making up a random principal for whatever reason by stating that the off-guard attack doesn't matter. Vegeta never said that Pure Boo would kill him out-right, he states that after Pure Boo lands his off-guard attack and resumes to rush him.

Because it doesn't, unless you want to try and claim Vegeta could've defended himself against someone that way far stronger than he imagined. Good luck with that.

Good Boo = Blew Boo in half and managed to land a few attacks due to taking Pure Boo off guard.

Nonsense. Kid Boo wasn't off-guard at any point while fighting Mr. Boo. He got hit because Mr. Boo hit him. Stop trying to low-ball the fat homie.

Vegeta = Blasted Boo apart completely and blew him in half.
The two are more-or-less the same, but Vegeta achieved more overall.

Does achieve more mean...he put the enemy in a position to smash him from behind? Because if it is, I agree with you completely. He achieved a nice beatdown.

You stated that he was 'enraged'. Majin Boo appears to be mad in certain scenarios, but that's a far cry from assuming that he's powering up. As usual, the burden of proof lies on you to show us some statement, somewhere, from some supporting character that implies that Pure Boo powered up.I discredited this above, because you made a silly comparison between how he looked at Good Boo and the Genki Dama.

Yes, because being enraged has to mean they're raising their Chi. Meanwhile, you're so sure Kid Boo powered-up towards the end even though no statement for that exists. Like I said, you're just being a hypocrite. I don't know how you don't see this.

Just leave it in the trash where it belongs.

It was never in the trash. Same can't be said about that Vegeta feat where he achieved....a bash from behind. Hey, it rhymes....

If Pure Boo varied his efforts, I'd like to see a statement telling us that he did so.

It's called using your eyes. Everything doesn't need a statement.

No Ki increase is noted at this point either. Goku and Vegeta are standing right there and simply wonder why he did that, because that's what Pure Boo does, random absurb things for no reason. Kapeesh. But you on the other-hand have to to take it as an increase of battle power, even though it's not noted. Not because you actually believe it but because it will help you in this debate, it isn't.

Ok, I really don't think you're reading my posts anymore because you're still talking about an increase in Chi when no one (except you) brought it up.

Good Boo can recover at a much faster rate then Vegeta, although that's not due to battle power, but anatomy.

And Kid Boo can regenerate from being blown into pieces, making it a shitty feat not relevant to battle power.

Let's look through the Manga, shall we?

No reason to. You misconstrue things.

And after all this occurred, Vegeta finally says that Pure Boo is killing him, not beforehand.

Then you missed the conversation before Vegeta entered the battle.

So my argument still stands. I'm beginning to think that you don't even read the Manga and just make things up for the sake of arguing.

I'm sure I read the manga more than enough times to recall the events. Think what you want, though.

But he did land a hit on Kid Boo, so you're wrong in the departure and he wasn't killed at once, and he wasn't even killed after being pummelled several dozen times. So the statement on it's own isn't reflective of what actually occurred because what actually occurred came AFTERWARDS and it paints an entirely different story.

He never landed any physical attacks on Kid Boo. I'm not talking about some shitty blast that Kid Boo allowed to hit him.

You're missing the point. Gotenks took Super Boo off guard because Super Boo rushed him, meanwhile Good Boo took Pure Boo off guard because Good Boo rushed him. It's not a reflection of strength, because we know that Gotenks doesn't compare to Super Boo at all, it's basic physics.

He did not take him off-guard at all. You're exaggerating this shit to unbelievable levels. Kid Boo kicked him in the face, but Mr. Boo recovered and countered him with a headbutt. Kid Boo didn't take his eyes off of him, so by definition, he saw him coming and got hit anyway. Again, this is just an example of you trying to undermine what actually happened while acting as if blowing Kid Boo apart is an actual feat of relevance. Btw, the comparison to Super Boo and Gotenks was ass.

As we can see by the action marks around his face and the "ERP?" statement, the implication here is that Good Boo took an opportunity to make a move and Pure Boo didn't expect it.

He did the same thing Kid Boo just did: extended his antenna. This changes what exactly? He slammed him off of him. Keep on trying to undermine everything Mr. Boo did while pumping up Vegeta's useless feat that nearly got him killed because of how stupid it was.

Please stop fabricating that everything that happens within the story is reflective of strength, it isn't. It can be reasonably justified by other means.

I suggest you take your own advice. The crux of this debate is Vegeta blowing up Kid Boo because he had a greater battle power than Mr. Boo.

You argued that he was taken off guard and I showed that he wasn't.

No, Tosh. This is what you said:

And NOPE, Boo was taken off guard a second time.

I didn't say anything close to that. I said Super Boo made it a point to dodge the Ghosts because of its power. You brought up Super Boo being off-guard every time he touched the Ghosts, even though that really....had nothing to do with what I was talking about. Your tricks won't work on me.... :elmo

Good Boo never achieved so much.

You're right. He achieved much more. Vegeta's own attack lead to him getting knocked down from behind....

If Akira Toriyama intended to show us that Good Boo was more powerful then he would have depicted it, he didn't.

Vegeta wasn't depicted as more powerful, so not sure what you mean.

That statement occurred before the actual fighting began, so it's contradicted and untrue.

Doesn't matter when it occurred. It shows that Vegeta is convinced Kid Boo would kill him outright in a battle. That means he'd go down in a direct fight just as easily without being able to put up a fight. Not much of a surprise.

The main thing that you're seemingly arguing is that everything is reflective of strength within the bout' and I showed that it wasn't.

If that's the impression (and I'm sure you're the only one) you came away with after reading all of this, then you're going out of your way to not even try to understand what I'm saying. Meanwhile, you have no issue disregarding the circumstances of Vegeta's attack to validate your own beliefs on why his battle power is better. You're engaging in the same exact thing you're scolding me for, yet it's only an issue when I do it.

There are several previous scenario that reflect the same thing but these are not reflections of strength as opposed to them being reasonable explained by other means. So when Good Boo lands a head butt on Pure Boo it's not necessarily a reflection of strength because as we seen Gotenks capable of doing so to Super Boo. However, when the fighting was all said and done, Vegeta managed to blast Boo completely apart while Good Boo hardly achieved so much.

It shows that Mr. Boo put up a better fight than Vegeta. It shows that he did better in close quarters than Vegeta ever did. You don't have to believe it. That's what happened. Vegeta's great feat is why Kid Boo was able to drop him so easily. If that's not enough to convince you that this shitty feat is just that.....a shitty feat, nothing will. You say Mr. Boo's anatomy is a factor, then neglect to mention that Kid Boo's anatomy is the only reason why Vegeta could even blast him to pieces. Again, you're being very hypocritical to prove a point.

Additionally, you seem to think that just because Good Boo lasted longer then it has to mean that he's stronger by default, well I presented an obvious reason as to how this is a false way of thinking. Majin Boo's anatomy allowed him to take a heavier beating, not because he was stronger.

That's not the reason why I think he's stronger. I think he's stronger because he could at least knock Kid Boo away while Vegeta was swinging at air.

This is a reason as to why one dimensional perspective on battles powers are fallacious. There is more to consider when analyzing a fight, such as anatomy, battle power, speed, technique and what actually occurred within the battle.[/quote]

Follow your own advice and stop exaggerating Vegeta's shitty feat, then. You're just going "Well, Vegeta blew him up and Good Boo couldn't. Vegeta's stronger by default!" Yes, he's definitely stronger........if you sit up here and act as if Mr. Boo can't throw out dozens upon dozens of his own Chi-blasts. Remember, you're the guy who makes it a point to bring up Mr. Boo's limitless stamina as his advantage over Vegeta. I guess that doesn't apply to his power.

As a final wrap-up to put an end to this silly debate, I'll show you that it's actually impossible for Good Boo to be stronger then Vegeta SSj2

Hard to be considered impossible when this wasn't even explained well in the story itself. Most of this stuff is left up in the air.

The energy awakened Boo. He still had his own power reserve.