Gotenks surviving Fat Boo's assault

[GSM123]

How reliable is that feat? Can we use it to prove Base Gotenks >>> SSJ2s?

 

[Kyo]

I think it’s entirely up to interpretation. In my opinion, of all the Gotenks-related material that is dismissed as “just a gag scene,” this one is one of the most appropriate.

The only thing is that it’s not suggested that SSJ Gotenks is stronger than Goku by a tremendous amount, which is part of the reason people come up with nerfed fusion SSJ multipliers.

 

[sei'taer]

I think SSJ gotenks power in relation to SSJ3 goku is a better gauge of his comparative strength in base with the SSJ2 fighters. Though that's assuming a fixed multiplier.

All his survival shows is that he can survive a beating in base without dying. Which isn't better or worse than the SSJ2 fighters vs buu. I just them in the same area of power and call it a day.

 

[GSM123]

I think it’s entirely up to interpretation. In my opinion, of all the Gotenks-related material that is dismissed as “just a gag scene,” this one is one of the most appropriate.

The only thing is that it’s not suggested that SSJ Gotenks is stronger than Goku by a tremendous amount, which is part of the reason people come up with nerfed fusion SSJ multipliers.

I agree. The scene even cuts from Gotenks leaving to him returning all beaten up to not waste time with Gotenks vs Fatso. Though that fight is the only feat we have for Base Gotenks, so it's sort of important. Plus Gotenks overall is a gag character, so just disregarding this specific moment as gag sounds like cherry picking.

If Gotenks is SSJ2 tier, which one do you think is most likely to be the case: SSJ3 has some huge ass multipler to cover the base/SSJ gap or fusion somehow was tiny multipliers?

 

[Six Trails]

I don't think it's reliable at all. Boo was clearly strong enough to kill Gotenks given the condition he came back in after the fight, so him escaping is more likely because of plot armor rather than power.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Every Super-Saiyan multiplier (if we really have to go by multipliers) is 50x.

Simple

 

[Jeff Styles]

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

Trunks also survived a punch from Super buu so there is that

 

[Evil Vegeta]

About as reliable as Trunks surviving the battle against his Androids.

 

[GSM123]

Every Super-Saiyan multiplier (if we really have to go by multipliers) is 50x.

Simple

And is SSJ3 multipler 100x?

About as reliable as Trunks surviving the battle against his Androids.

I dunno about that. The twins were actually having a lot of fun with Trunks so they decided to let him live , whereas Boo killed anyone who annyoned him. Gotenks certainly seems like the type who would annoy Boo.

I think assuming Gotenks survived because of his power raises too many questions. How strong is he then? Can he hold his own against Boo? Did he outrun him? Why didn't Boo follow him?

 

[Void]

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

I guess that means Kaioshin >> SS2 Majin Vegeta? Kaioshin survived a big beating from Fat Boo.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Super-Saiyan = 50x
Super-Saiyan 2 = 50x Super-Saiyan
Super-Saiyan 3 = 50x Super-Saiyan 2

 

[sei'taer]

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

That's hardly comparable as vegeta killed himself. The beating gotenks appeared to have received is pretty comparable to both of vegeta's SSJ2 fights against fat and kid buus.

 

[Pyro]

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

I guess that means Kaioshin >> SS2 Majin Vegeta? Kaioshin survived a big beating from Fat Boo.

Not that I don't agree with the overall notion, but you know damn well Boo was using that young woman as a plaything and had no intention of killing her yet.

 

[Void]

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

I guess that means Kaioshin >> SS2 Majin Vegeta? Kaioshin survived a big beating from Fat Boo.

Not that I don't agree with the overall notion, but you know damn well Boo was using that young woman as a plaything and had no intention of killing her yet.

Maybe, but Fatty's power when he hits Kaioshin should be the same as it was when he hit Gohands. Boo didn't care about Babidi's grudge against Kaioshit.

 

[Pyro]

I guess that means Kaioshin >> SS2 Majin Vegeta? Kaioshin survived a big beating from Fat Boo.

Not that I don't agree with the overall notion, but you know damn well Boo was using that young woman as a plaything and had no intention of killing her yet.

Maybe, but Fatty's power when he hits Kaioshin should be the same as it was when he hit Gohands. Boo didn't care about Babidi's grudge against Kaioshit.

If Fat Boi wanted Base Gotenks dead, he would have been dead, man.

 

[Void]

Not that I don't agree with the overall notion, but you know damn well Boo was using that young woman as a plaything and had no intention of killing her yet.

Maybe, but Fatty's power when he hits Kaioshin should be the same as it was when he hit Gohands. Boo didn't care about Babidi's grudge against Kaioshit.

If Fat Boi wanted Base Gotenks dead, he would have been dead, man.

Kind of my point. You can't draw conclusions from that scene, homeslice.

 

[Pyro]

I'm not. You are.

 

[Void]

Only a sith deals absolutes.

 

[Jeff Styles]

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

I guess that means Kaioshin >> SS2 Majin Vegeta? Kaioshin survived a big beating from Fat Boo.

Shin only survive because Gohan, Dabura, Vegeta, Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks interfere. He would've been as good as dead if Vegeta didn't show up in the last moment.

Very reliable since it's the only feat Base Gotenks (pre) has. Gotenks did something Vegeta couldn't do, survive and live to tell about it. That's enough for me.

That's hardly comparable as vegeta killed himself. The beating gotenks appeared to have received is pretty comparable to both of vegeta's SSJ2 fights against fat and kid buus.

Vegeta was already going to die when Boo trap him and started to pound the shit out of him.