Great Ape Gohan Discussion

[Power Level Guy]

And he loses control of his emotions as an Oozaru. He’s a giant rampaging beast.

Not necessarily his emotions. He loses his mind essentially. Enraged Gohan is still Gohan, in body and mind. Oozaru Gohan is like a whole different person. He loses his mind. They are not the same.

Alternatively, I’ve seen people suggest Calm Gohan was already much stronger from that 1 day of surviving. Like 100ish.

Then Gohan could always beat up Piccolo in training? I doubt it.

Yeah, he’s injured. Everyone was too beat up to stop a barely alive Vegeta.

Yeah, I gotta look at how beat up Gohan is. I thought he was basically fine, he got a sensu after all. Then he fights a little bit and bounces back the Spirit Bomb, then he goes Oozaru, no?

 

[GreatSaiyaman123]

Not necessarily his emotions. He loses his mind essentially. Enraged Gohan is still Gohan, in body and mind. Oozaru Gohan is like a whole different person. He loses his mind. They are not the same.


Then Gohan could always beat up Piccolo in training? I doubt it.


Yeah, I gotta look at how beat up Gohan is. I thought he was basically fine, he got a sensu after all. Then he fights a little bit and bounces back the Spirit Bomb, then he goes Oozaru, no?

Point being, Gohan is not restricted by emotions anymore in either scenario.

??? Gohan being at 100 is nowhere near to beat up Piccolo.

I remember he was pretty messed up when he transforms, not sure why though.

 

[Power Level Guy]

Point being, Gohan is not restricted by emotions anymore in either scenario.

Vegeta Arc Gohan is in a much better state than Raditz Arc Gohan. Less control isn't a positive here.

Piccolo trains Gohan to be able to control that power. This is a progression of the character's power in all ways, including Oozaru.

??? Gohan being at 100 is nowhere near to beat up Piccolo.

Where is this number from?

 

[Kyo]

This should be a reason why proportionally Gohan in the Vegeta arc has more power, not less, right? More control is good, right?

Yeah.

That’s never been the argument.

Alright. I wasn’t sure what the argument was.

 

[Power Level Guy]

So where do you place regular Gohan then?

Should he be above Kami?

 

[Super Kaioken Fan]

Gohan's Oozaru form isn't influenced by rage, there's no way Gohan is 13k shortly after the Raditz Arc.

What is Gohan during the Vegeta Arc? He's fully healed too, right? ANd Vegeta can beat 3 of him if he was at full power?

This is important here.

your talking about gohans power level druring the saiyans?

 

[Power Level Guy]

your talking about gohans power level druring the saiyans?

Yeah I’m trying to prove Oozaru Gohan is less than 4,000.

 

[SSJ2]

710 is not Gohan's regular power. That's his enraged power.

Oozaru is based on Gohan's regular power, which is surely below Goku and Piccolo, as it's always been.

So what are you suggesting Oozaru Gohan would be against Raditz?

 

[Power Level Guy]

So what are you suggesting Oozaru Gohan would be against Raditz?

That's what I'm trying to figure out. We are trying to figure out what Gohan's true regular power is. That's what Oozaru seems to be based on.

Hmmm...

It's hard to put Gohan too high, but it seems he has to be. At minimum he's 150, at max, I want to say 300.

I think that's a good safe range.

Ain't no way is Oozaru Gohan weaker than 1,500. But I also don't think Gohan should be stronger than even Weighted Goku and Piccolo.

What do you think? I think that's a good range. I think right in the middle is the sweet spot. I think I like 2,000.

 

[SIAD]

150 seems ideal. I don't really see Gohan (Normal) being as powerful as Yamcha.

 

[Power Level Guy]

150 seems ideal. I don't really see Gohan (Normal) being as powerful as Yamcha.

Ah yes, in my head, the humans are like 1-5 power level, of course. 150 should be perfect to put him right under Yamcha. I agree.

 

[SSJ2]

That's what I'm trying to figure out. We are trying to figure out what Gohan's true regular power is. That's what Oozaru seems to be based on.

Hmmm...

It's hard to put Gohan too high, but it seems he has to be. At minimum he's 150, at max, I want to say 300.

I think that's a good safe range.

Ain't no way is Oozaru Gohan weaker than 1,500. But I also don't think Gohan should be stronger than even Weighted Goku and Piccolo.

What do you think? I think that's a good range. I think right in the middle is the sweet spot. I think I like 2,000.

Yeah I think 250 to 300 works fine. As long as we both agree that Oozaru Gohan should surpass his enraged state, I'm in agreement with it.