GSM rereads Berserk

[SSJ2]

Yea same. If there's anything you forget then just post in this thread.

 

[SSJ2]

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[SSJ2]

GSM there will be spoilers ahead so I don't recommend opening.

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Has Zodd seen the Incarnation ceremony before? I forget how many years apart a new Godhand member is born. Also is it ever said how old Zodd is? He says he has been fighting for centuries but that's about it.

 

[Papasmurf]

Zodd says he's lived 300 years of slaughter, which makes him just old enough to have experienced a previous Eclipse (Femto, the fifth Godhand member, was inducted roughly 1000 years after Void).

 

[SSJ2]

Really enjoying taking a deeper look at the Golden Age. I've said it before but it's easily my favourite arc of all time.

 

[SSJ2]

Is Griffith aware that Guts was present when he made his speech to Charlotte? From this panel it makes it look as though Guts would have been seen.

 

[Papasmurf]

It's not really implied he was aware back then, but later when he became crippled Cascack talked about how Guts wanted to be Griffith's friend and equal so he would have been aware by then.

 

[SSJ2]

It's odd, from Guts' perspective it looks like Griffith is staring right at him. I agree though.

Its unbelievable how much the eclipse is foreshadowed throughout this arc.

 

[SSJ2]

Why did Zodd help Guts in the Battle for Doldrey? What could his motive possibly be?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Either he wanted to keep him around as a necessary sacrifice for Griffith to make due to being aware of Griffith's destiny, or it was out of respect for Guts' potential as a worthy challenge.

...Or maybe Zodd is Gattsu's real father.

 

[SSJ2]

I wonder about that. Does the eclipse happen on an exact schedule? Zodd's prophecy stated that it would happen once Griffith's ambition collapses. It's feasible that if Guts lost to Boscogn, the Hawks could have been slaughtered in the battle. If that happened would the eclipse be triggered at that point in time?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Sacrifices that are close to the victim's heart are necessary for the Eclipse and it was made apparent to Zodd that Guts meant enough to Griffith that he'd lead his men on a search and rescue mission whilst going directly into battle against the apostle just to save Guts. That probably made Zodd realise how necessary Guts would be.

As for the alternative scenario of the Eclipse, it's hard to say. If most of the Hawks are slaughtered in battle, or at least the major ones, Griffith may not have the necessary sacrifices to become Femto or may not be in the state of mind to sacrifice more for his dream when it's apparent Guts was special to him and this was before his torture and seeing the bond between Casca and Guts affected him. Given causality is a major part of Berserk, he'd probably still become Femto somehow, likely being able to escape with his remaining soldiers, form a new Band of the Hawk and probably go through the Eclipse afterwards. It's stated that the Eclipse occurs every 216 years, so the Battle of Doldrey would still be too early for Griffith to realise his destiny.

 

[SSJ2]

After seeing Griffith get rescued from the tower of rebirth, I really don't see how ahill can have a shred of sympathy for the torturer. Like wtf? This guy enjoyed his job and was more than happy to explain how twisted his "relationship" with Griffith was. How the fuck can you feel sorry for this abomination?

 

[SSJ2]

Sooo is this apostle a male or female? :mikey

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[SSJ2]

Why was Femto born before all of the sacrifices were killed?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Either the amount that had died were sufficient, or the sacrifices taking place is irrelevant in the God Hand ascension compared to decisively making the choice to go through with it which Griffith had already committed to. I'd probably say the latter is more likely, considering it fits well with how Berserk's narrative is driven by the characters' emotions and desires which tie into the point of the Idea of Evil.

 

[SSJ2]

You're likely right, I just find it odd that it was stated several times that every last drop of blood would be used to give birth to Femto. I suppose that was more of a figure of speech than anything. Either way, the Godhand were fully expecting every sacrifice to be killed then and there.

 

[SSJ2]

Is it pretty much confirmed that the Skull Knight is Gaiseric and Void was the imprisoned sage?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

It seems the most likely, though there are some issues such as the implication that the original 4 God Hand members destroyed Gaiseric's kingdom (though the 4 spirits could refer to something else).

On a related note, chapter 360 is out.

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Not much to say about it beyond Skull Knight showing up at the end. It does establish Schierke and Farnese's magical abilities are far beyond the average due to their unique experiences, though it does take a very long time establishing this that could've been used more efficiently.

 

[SSJ2]

But weren't there 2 different stories about what happened?

Judeau's take:

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Mozgus' take:

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I mean both stories appear to be true in a sense. 5 angels were born eventually, but we know there was only 1 at the beginning.


As for Void, him being the Sage makes most sense to me. It's said that he was subjected to torture, and Void's face clearly shows such.