Guidelines for Tanking Gaps

ahill

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I think if anything suppressed Cell's gap over Vegeta should be > initial Semi Cell's gap over #16.
 

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I was thinking that the other day when I reviewed it as well. Cell's neck moves, but his tank is more solid and it's a fucking kick. Semi Cell's tank is impressive, but he does move a lot more than you'd think, he shakes quite a bit. In the anime, it felt like it was hitting rock, but his body does vibrate a bit.

Cell vs Vegeta is right there with it, if not superior. Those gaps can be debated more intensely imo.
 

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Yeah, and Cell is smiling over Vegeta's kick, while he seems to be at discomfort when 16 punched him.
 

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Yup. The fact Vegeta still is able to blow up Cell after that is insane. Final Flash must have a stupid amplification or what's more likely is that Cell probably wasn't prepared for it. That's how everything in DB seems to work with ki blast. If it has your full attention, you can usually survive it or whatnot, some are overwhelmed, but not often. If you are not paying attention, you are getting fucked up.

If Cell hit Gohan with that blast and Gohan was on guard, I bet Gohan wouldn't have been anywhere near as damaged. Not even close. It's because he wasn't concentrating his defense. I don't really understand how ki blasts work. Strange things.
 

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P, it's basically impossible to have base Cell Games Goku ~ android #17 and #18 if we follow all those tanking gaps and go with 50% >>> warm up. Trust me, I've tried and didn't manage it in any way. Unless we increase even more the SSJ multiplier (by 75x or so).
 

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Well i had a theory that mssj is as strong as Ussj but with increased speed and all,but then we got to see SSj grade3 trunks in Super which ruined it all.
But you can still make Mssj as strong as Grade2
 

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I don't know why ahill. I've been settled with that for a long time because no matter what I do I can't get the Base Saiyans away from Android Range. It keeps happening over and over. Your gaps probably are off in a couple parts. If you present them slowly in short bursts, I'll show you the error of your ways.
 

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Alright, look at my power level list (I'll bump it). All there is working since I have warm up = 50%; if I change to 50% >>> warm up, then base Goku at Cell Games would end up >>> #17.
 

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Well then that should tell you that something is wrong with your list on the other side then. Your guidelines should be the Base Saiyans being around the Androids while 50% Goku >> Warm Up Goku. That's the correct chain that needs to be followed.
 
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