How high is young Future Trunks?

[Fantastische Hure]

Not as a SSJ.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Before Future Gohan was killed? If it is then a lot weaker than Base Gohan who hold his own against SSjin Future Trunks (Kid).

 

[PorchMaster]

Weaker than Ginyu, if you go by the 50x SSJ multiplier.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

The Freeza Saga bloat is real though. Goku can be way higher than 3 million in my opinion, but that's just my opinion.

 

[PorchMaster]

Indeed, I've also written lists where Goku came up between 190 and 250 million at SSJ. These days I just give up and say I don't care enough to refute something official if it isn't as contradictory as that bullshit "SSJ3 goku is on the same level as Gohan-Boo" or "Potara and Fusion Dance are equal trump-cards" bullshit since those are demonstrably false in the manga, and openly go against previous official statements like Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 and Potara being more akin to multiplication and higher than the dance.

 

[GSM123]

Base Trunks? About as strong as Namek Base Goku, give or take. That's about the power you need to reach before finally becoming a Super Saiyan.

The Freeza Saga bloat is real though. Goku can be way higher than 3 million in my opinion, but that's just my opinion.

He's stated to be 3 million though.

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Like, barely over a million.

 

[withheldforprivacy]

By my gaps and 50x multiplier, he's about 150.000

 

[SSJ2]

Base Trunks? About as strong as Namek Base Goku, give or take. That's about the power you need to reach before finally becoming a Super Saiyan.

The Freeza Saga bloat is real though. Goku can be way higher than 3 million in my opinion, but that's just my opinion.

He's stated to be 3 million though.

Where?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

Think he's referring to the Daizenshuu figure.

 

[Fantastische Hure]

Yeah, that was never stated in the actual series. I'd think as an SSJ he'd need to be at-least >> Freeza Saga Goku because Gohan thought he might leave him in the dust soon which if he wasn't even close to his regular state wouldn't make sense (depending on how much progress he was making). Future Gohan >>> Freeza Saga Goku.

 

[SSJ2]

I dont see 150 million in my version of the mango but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[GSM123]

[mention]Supreme[/mention] here pal

Spoiler

 

[SSJ2]

I dont see 150 million in my version of the mango but maybe I'm wrong.

 

[GSM123]

I dont see 150 million in my version of the mango but maybe I'm wrong.

Never said it's on the mango

 

[SSJ2]

For something to be stated it has to be within the manga.

 

[GSM123]

Only in the manga? So if Toriyama states something that's not in the manga it's not valid?

 

[Evil Vegeta]

On second thought, 3-4 million just sounds better.

 

[SSJ2]

Only in the manga? So if Toriyama states something that's not in the manga it's not valid?

The difference is your “statement” is not from Toriyama.

 

[GSM123]

But it's from Daizenshuu 7, which Toriyama was involved in producing and highly praized. It's not like I'm quoting the run of the mill V-Jump edition that everybody nows is wrong.

And it's not like you can prove it's wrong, unless you pull a P and say scouters overall are wrong