How many times more powerful do you have Vegetto SSJB (Manga) over Merged Zamasu (Manga)?

[SIAD]

It can be between 30 to 90x stronger Vegetto SSJB (Manga) over Merged Zamasu (Manga).

 

[Pyro]

I have a tiny idea, but it's difficult. I would roll with around 10x, but I don't know what to do about Black's transformations. If Black gets full multipliers, then holy shit, the multiplier for Blue would need to be gigantic.

 

[Void]

10x is pretty fair, and I don't see Black having standard multipliers.

 

[Pyro]

10x is pretty fair, and I don't see Black having standard multipliers.

Do you think they're rather small? Like GT level small almost?

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Thousands of times stronger.

Via toriyamas 6-10-15 scale, beerus isn't even twice as strong as zamasu while base Vegito was above the super Saiyan blues in power. Zamasu is about an 8.8 on my list while base Vegito is about a 7.4 on my list. That makes the gap from Vegito turning blue self explanatory.

 

[xenos5]

Thousands of times stronger.

Via toriyamas 6-10-15 scale, beerus isn't even twice as strong as zamasu while base Vegito was above the super Saiyan blues in power. Zamasu is about an 8.8 on my list while base Vegito is about a 7.4 on my list. That makes the gap from Vegito turning blue self explanatory.

That scale was thrown out a long time ago. Ever since Beerus became a moving goal post.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

I need to read Viz's version first in order to make an opinion but Vegeta can be just stronger than Merged Zamasu, that's it.

 

[KyuubiAhri]

i have vegito 3x stronger.

 

[supersaiyangodgogeta]

Thousands of times stronger.

Via toriyamas 6-10-15 scale, beerus isn't even twice as strong as zamasu while base Vegito was above the super Saiyan blues in power. Zamasu is about an 8.8 on my list while base Vegito is about a 7.4 on my list. That makes the gap from Vegito turning blue self explanatory.

That scale was thrown out a long time ago. Ever since Beerus became a moving goal post.

Not sure what you're even talking about but there isn't any official material going against the scale and it's even reinforced by vegeta forcing beerus to use 10%. No Ssb kaioken wasn't implied anywhere to be weaker than beerus.

 

[GSM123]

maybe 10x?

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

It's a blasphemy how the manga made Merged Zamasu equal to a non-fusion fighter. The anime handled it better with Merged Zamasu and Vegito are different realm compare to Goku and Vegeta.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

All I can say after reading the recent manga, CSSjinB Vegeta can hold his own against ''Toying'' Beerus which should qualify Vegeta as stronger than Merged Zamasu.

SSjinB Vegito >= Full Powered Beerus >>>>>>> Toying Beerus > CSSjinB Vegeta ~ CSSjinB Goku > Merged Zamasu >>>> Base Vegito ~ Current SSjinB Goku and Vegeta

 

[Void]

Blue Vegetto is marginally stronger than Beerus at best. Kaioshin says he 'might be stronger' than Beerus, and that's only when Blue Vegetto is revving up a Final Kamehameha. Kaio-Ken Blue Goku is trash to Beerus if CSSB is.

Goku's only hope of surpassing Beerus or Blue Vegetto is definitely this new silver-eyed form.

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Assuming Base Vegetto > SSB Galu/Vegina, and being as minimalistic as possible with Vegetto's SSJ multipliers, then...

SSB Goku/Vegeta - 1
CSSB Goku/Vegeta & Merged Zamasu - 2

Base Vegetto - 1.2
SSJ Vegetto - 1.5
SS2 Vegetto - 3
SS3 Vegetto - 6
SSG Vegetto - 12
SSB Vegetto - 15

So still close to a 10x difference at least.

 

[SIAD]

 

[SIAD]

Assuming Base Vegetto > SSB Galu/Vegina, and being as minimalistic as possible with Vegetto's SSJ multipliers, then...

SSB Goku/Vegeta - 1
CSSB Goku/Vegeta & Merged Zamasu - 2

Base Vegetto - 1.2
SSJ Vegetto - 1.5
SS2 Vegetto - 3
SS3 Vegetto - 6
SSG Vegetto - 12
SSB Vegetto - 15

So still close to a 10x difference at least.

Do you have the SSJ multiplier for 1.25x Vegetto Base?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Yeah. Unless we get feats to show Vegetto's SSJ forms as being in completely different dimensions from the form below it, I'd be as minimalistic as possible in regard to Vegetto's transformed states.

 

[Let's Go Fearless!]

Yeah. Unless we get feats to show Vegetto's SSJ forms as being in completely different dimensions from the form below it, I'd be as minimalistic as possible in regard to Vegetto's transformed states.

Are you referring to Z Vegito?

 

[Captain Cadaver]

Nah. Just DBS Vegetto.

 

[Pyro]

I tried to do the math last night and it made my head hurt. The way the gaps are implied, and the Blue multiplier, even giving Potara a 10x boost would make Base Vegetto stronger than Fused Zamasu, and then adding transformations would be redundant.