How Many Wizards Are There?

[Sovran Nila]

Aside from Bibidi and Babidi, how many total wizards are there in the franchise?

 

[Warmmedown]

Kami, Dende, Piccolo, Ginyu, Elder Kaioshin, Chazou, General Blue, Mr Popo, Kaioshin, Dabura, Janemba

 

[Sovran Nila]

Kami, Dende, Piccolo, Ginyu, Elder Kaioshin, Chazou, General Blue, Mr Popo, Kaioshin, Dabura, Janemba

Really, they're all considered wizards? Why?

 

[Warmmedown]

They all do some magic that isn't explained by ki.

Kami/Dende: create dragon balls
Kami/Piccolo: clothes beam (maybe Dende too)
Ginyu: change beam
Blue/Kaioshin/Chazou: Telekinesis
Elder Kaioshin: draw out power
Janemba: can rearrange matter like making a sword
Dabura: turns people to stone with spit and iirc created a sword too
Mr Popo: he just looks like a genie

Guru can be added.

And Guldo for stopping time.

 

[Sovran Nila]

What's the difference between an immortal god and a mortal wizard? If neither have ki, then this means no power level?

 

[Symbiote]

They all do some magic that isn't explained by ki.

Kami/Dende: create dragon balls
Kami/Piccolo: clothes beam (maybe Dende too)
Ginyu: change beam
Blue/Kaioshin/Chazou: Telekinesis
Elder Kaioshin: draw out power
Janemba: can rearrange matter like making a sword
Dabura: turns people to stone with spit and iirc created a sword too
Mr Popo: he just looks like a genie

Guru can be added.

And Guldo for stopping time.

Frieza did telekinesis too

 

[SSJ2]

What's the difference between an immortal god and a mortal wizard? If neither have ki, then this means no power level?

I don’t think anyone is immortal in Dragon Ball.

 

[Sovran Nila]

I don’t think anyone is immortal in Dragon Ball.

There isn't a single character in Dragonball/Z that did NOT die?

 

[Warmmedown]

What's the difference between an immortal god and a mortal wizard? If neither have ki, then this means no power level?

I think if they're weak like Fortuneteller Baba it's not power level/battle power. On a scouter it's "battle power". Some of these don't contribute to battle, like clothes beam. If you took a non-battle ability and effectively used it in battle, such aa using clothes beam to suffocate someone, would it be added to a scouter battle power rating, either overall or just during the attack (similar to an amplified ki blast)? Guldo stopped time and this made him much more dangerous in battle, capable of even killing Gohan and Krillin, but his power level was still lower than theirs iirc. So it doesn't raise the base battle power. Nobody tried measuring his battle power during his time freeze (not possible to do because time is frozen), so maybe it could be higher during that freeze, because he's suddenly more dangerous in battle, through a means other than ki. When Dabura spits, would his battle power spike on a scouter? Or does a scouter purely measure ki?

All of these magic attacks (time freeze, clothes suffocation, petrification, telekinesis paralysis) involve temporarily lowering the battle abilities of the victim, so maybe if they affect scouter readings at all, it would be by lowering the battle power of the victim after use, rather than increasing the battle power of the user before use? Telekinesis to control objects like rocks is the only one that isn't making the victim weaker. Does picking up rocks increase Freeza's battle power? I'm thinking no, because learning a new punch or kick doesn't increase it, at least not in DBZ (maybe it would earlier in the series, when physical technique made up a bigger % of battle effectiveness). Controlling rocks is just like having an extra punch. Then again it makes you able to attack faster (punches, kicks, rocks in between), so should it raise battle power?